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Cheetory6 : town
MaxwellPuckett: lean scum
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Sonic X (Hydra; Metal Sonic & ZZZX): wants to be targeted with night actions, town
TunnelWarriors (Hydra; DoctorPepper & wgeurts): allying power guy, town
vezokpiraka: double voter, town
Trench Warfare (Hydra; Titus & T S O): town
CooLDoG: null, rolefishes my slot.
grapes: double voter, lean town. wall posts are not inviting to read.
Beer: scum
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farside22: treestump, lean town
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Mastin2: voteless, town, female
Ricastle: scum
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Skybird: scum
Bins: lean town, do not ally
Marquis lean town
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I don't think alliances can hurt anything, so I think if you want to be in one you should find a partner. But I am think the people who want to be allied have mostly taken care of that already.
I've already been told not to examine meta so I won't. But Beers two heads + Gordovans joke scum posts in thread and in-alliance + they are confirmed by vezok's PM to be Lars... = town.
I still want to hear whether Beer was told by PM that vezok was Sadie or not. But I dunno if they're coming back before day's end.One man's trash talk is another man's treasure talk.- MaxwellPuckett
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Cheetory6 : town
MaxwellPuckett: lean scum
Ra9in9 Bull (Hydra; fro99er & ika)*
Sonic X (Hydra; Metal Sonic & ZZZX): wants to be targeted with night actions, town
TunnelWarriors (Hydra; DoctorPepper & wgeurts): allying power guy, town
vezokpiraka: double voter, town
Trench Warfare (Hydra; Titus & T S O): town
CooLDoG: null, rolefishes my slot.
grapes: double voter, lean town. wall posts are not inviting to read.
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farside22: treestump, lean town
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Mastin2: voteless, town, female
Ricastle: scum
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Skybird: scum
Bins: lean town, do not ally
Marquis: town
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I may have skimmed the last 10 pages and all of Grapes wall posts. Oh well.
@Fuzzy:
-Vezo is town because of how he pushed for a beer lynch and got frustrated that he got so little response. His general play is also pretty good.
-the alignment of the doublevoters is something to be determined. I don't believe it's 1 scum/1 town if that's what you're implying. My read on grapes is close to null, as I've skimmed most of his posts. I have seen some town-motivated content somewhere though. So slightly town I suppose.
-Bins might not post much, but the reads are original, backed up and not just parrotting.
-I can see why there's a wagon for Radmann, but I especially dislike Ricastle's presence on it. He keeps pushing, gets off, gets back on again and starts pushing again, meanwhile derailing the Beer wagon.
Yay! I've caught up! Missing some reads I suppose. Oh well, I'll sort them later.
To be honest, I'm more in favor of a Fuzzy lynch. But I can settle for Beer.
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↑ TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:people have just assumed that Vezo is town bc he is a double voter ... I think that this is a dangerous assumption.
The strong case for Vezok being town is laying attention to how he pushed the lynch on us. I also think that him claiming that we are hated is a very strong towntell for him; we originally claimed it in the neighborhood and crumbed it in thread to see what he would do with it, and claiming it for us when we are about to get lynched is an extremely strong town tell considering he could have very easily gotten away with pushing us to L-1 and then claiming that he didn't know.
The frustration here seems pretty real and town, as does the plan to use the double vote for a fakehammer gambit. I don't think grapes as scum would be too bothered by forcing to out his role in its entirety.
Fuzzy's logic seems pretty crazy in general but the way he pushes his logic seems very genuine; not really seeing where the scumreads there are coming from.“Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” - Homer Simpson- Ricastle
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So moving your vote is scummy now? Remarkable.↑ Replace in wrote:-I can see why there's a wagon for Radmann, but I especially dislike Ricastle's presence on it. He keeps pushing, gets off, gets back on again and starts pushing again, meanwhile derailing the Beer wagon.- Beer
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Ika is playing pretty much exactly to his scum meta. I feel bad voting the slot based on Ika lurking and Ika lurking alone, but the vote seems to easy and obvious to me that it basically just has to be made.
Could you link to the games you've been referring to specifically? He seems to have the same rambly nature he always does.“Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” - Homer Simpson- Cheetory6
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I'd like to apologize for everyone generally and to my partner metal mainly for not being here for most of this to help. I'd forgotten about many things and got busy with others games and real life for a while. I don't expect to be able to do much but getting a full readlist/thoughts and a catch up before the end of this day should be done most likely
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↑ TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I want to vote Mastin bc she is Mastin ( and she played me several times before) but I think I wait. Not sure why scum would claim stump.Not sure that would help the scum team,,,than again its Mastin so I am not taking anything she says as truth without sound reason.
This seems genuine because it's a lot of thinking about an RVS vote and something that isn't really anything more than an RVS vote; Fuzzy seems the type of player who is pretty foot in mouth and rambly as town and very quiet as scum and this seems like a decent example of the former.
↑ TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:yeah ...hate to say it but Ika prob should be mod killed and Fro continue on ....... I not sure Ika is stable enough to continue. Seem like a complete melt down
The entire push for RG to get punished for freaking out seems like something that's unlikely to come from scum; it's ballsy to call for a town modkill or yellow card or whatever and it's even ballsier to ask for the same thing on your partner.
↑ TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I get the concern about my questions. I had the brilliant idea that maybe I could compare their ability limits to mine and see if they were lying about their roles. Obvious this was not thought out too well. It did sound good in my head, than again a lot oof things sound good in my head but when I say them I realize how utterly stupid they are. I guess this idea could work in theory but as I said the pratical aspect falls flat
I find the assertions the fuzzy was pushing for the doublevoters to out the entirety of their roles for some signficiant tactical reason because he doesn't seem like that type of player and because the information is so useless it doesn't really seem worth the effort to get. Him thinking he can confirm their alignment based on the mechanics of his own role makes a lot more sense.
↑ TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:plus ithink we need to hear from RI before lynching.
Yeah good game everyone.... hopez my flip will help find scum
The resignation and self-sacrifice for the good of the town also seems town here.
There are also smaller things, like his "farside is still reading me wrong but I can't help but read her as town" and his obsession with calling RR town and the way he handles our wagon at the end of the day "I think they are scummy but the way vezok has pushed them seems off" all comes together in a very genuine way. I don't think scum approaches the game the way fuzzy has.“Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” - Homer Simpson- Beer
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↑ Trench Warfare wrote:
Let's avoid lynching the asshole (Raging), the guy who apparently was bragging about how scummy he was (Beer), Fulminator (the navel gazer who can only say "gee I understand why you're wagoned").
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Vote: Raging Bull
This seems like a fairly straightforward vote and the likeliest to hit scum at the moment. Ika has a very distinct meta: as town, he does something. As scum, he does nothing but lurk. All he is doing here is lurking.“Here’s to alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems.” - Homer Simpson- Skybird
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↑ Reasonably Rational wrote:Spoiler:
Done! Now I'm gonna go get some work done, and after that I might see what I think about the people who have all joined this wagon right now, but given how late in the day it is, i don't expect to get much out of it.
Between 27 and 75, Ricastle and Trench joined, Ricastle in 47, trench in 59, neither giving much in the way of reasons, so I assume they felt Vezok's words about beer were reason enough to vote.
In 302, Ricastle moves his vote to Sonic X, having stated previously that he wants to see both Sonic and Beer lynched, and is sure that pool will result in at least one dead scum.
In 342 Tunnel votes Beer, referencing 340(stating that the wgeurts head feels that the sonic wagon is a counter wagon to the beer wagon, and that a Beer flip gives more information about a number of other players). In 344 radmann9 votes for Beer after agreeing with Tunnel about the information available from a Beer flip.
This is the height of the Beer wagon. 6 votes
Beer (6): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, TunnelWarriors, radmann9,
In 467 Tunnel switches his vote to radmann9 because vezok never actually paraphrased beers claimed gloating about his successful scum claim as well as the claim itself.
Trench asks for the same thing Tunnel wanted from Vezok, a summary of Beers words, and states that they like Beers play aside from that. They then unvote in 483 because both hydra heads aren't agreeing on the matter.
In 624 Sonic X moves their vote to fuzzy because of the infinite scumminess we all saw from them.
And finally, in 727, vezok votes for me, in response to the test i had asked about quite some time before.
radmanns vote never leaves Beer.
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↑ Reasonably Rational wrote:Unallied
Cheetory6
Ra9in9 Bull (Hydra; fro99er & ika)*
Sonic X (Hydra; Metal Sonic & ZZZX)
CooLDoG
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Reasonably Rational/Trench Warfare/Tunnel Warriors
Ricastle/NicCage
Fluminator/Grapes
Skybird/Maxwell
vezokpiraka/farside22
Let me know if I got anything wrong there.
Also, I just realized that farside has never even attempted to vote. I mean, considering we currently have a player in the game who doesn't count, that kinda sort confirms their claim right? So I shouldn't be concerned about it right?
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↑ Skybird wrote:↑ Reasonably Rational wrote:Spoiler:
Done! Now I'm gonna go get some work done, and after that I might see what I think about the people who have all joined this wagon right now, but given how late in the day it is, i don't expect to get much out of it.
Between 27 and 75, Ricastle and Trench joined, Ricastle in 47, trench in 59, neither giving much in the way of reasons, so I assume they felt Vezok's words about beer were reason enough to vote.
In 302, Ricastle moves his vote to Sonic X, having stated previously that he wants to see both Sonic and Beer lynched, and is sure that pool will result in at least one dead scum.
In 342 Tunnel votes Beer, referencing 340(stating that the wgeurts head feels that the sonic wagon is a counter wagon to the beer wagon, and that a Beer flip gives more information about a number of other players). In 344 radmann9 votes for Beer after agreeing with Tunnel about the information available from a Beer flip.
This is the height of the Beer wagon. 6 votes
Beer (6): vezokpiraka, vezokpiraka, Sonic X, Trench Warfare, TunnelWarriors, radmann9,
In 467 Tunnel switches his vote to radmann9 because vezok never actually paraphrased beers claimed gloating about his successful scum claim as well as the claim itself.
Trench asks for the same thing Tunnel wanted from Vezok, a summary of Beers words, and states that they like Beers play aside from that. They then unvote in 483 because both hydra heads aren't agreeing on the matter.
In 624 Sonic X moves their vote to fuzzy because of the infinite scumminess we all saw from them.
And finally, in 727, vezok votes for me, in response to the test i had asked about quite some time before.
radmanns vote never leaves Beer.
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↑ Reasonably Rational wrote:Unallied
Cheetory6
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Sonic X (Hydra; Metal Sonic & ZZZX)
CooLDoG
Beer
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Allies:
Reasonably Rational/Trench Warfare/Tunnel Warriors
Ricastle/NicCage
Fluminator/Grapes
Skybird/Maxwell
vezokpiraka/farside22
Let me know if I got anything wrong there.
Also, I just realized that farside has never even attempted to vote. I mean, considering we currently have a player in the game who doesn't count, that kinda sort confirms their claim right? So I shouldn't be concerned about it right?
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Rational, both these posts are IIoA. What do you think about Beer's wagon and who's allying with whom?
There's nothing to analyze, if there had been, I would have. Nobody who was on beers wagon originally was especially vehement about him being scum. They were all couching joining the wagon in terms expressing their uncertainty and desire to hear more from Vezok and Beer about the exchange they had, or simply with naked votes. When they left the wagon, it all seemed to be for valid reasons. Again, nothing inconsistent was expressed. Without a flip. there's really not any information I could gather from the way the wagon came together and fell apart, and even with a flip, I feel the information gained from that particular sequence of events is going to be minimal. The conversations that happened about beer will gain more import, but the actual wagon formation and dissolution will not. I was going to look at the new wagon that came together as well, but given the proximity to the end of the day, I don't think there's a *lot* that I'll be able to gain from it, so I decided to save that for after the lynch, assuming it goes through. The main significance of the beer wagon will be in regards to how people chose to flash wagon him over the other options presented.
The allying was pure information collection. I figured it was something that might be helpful for people who wanted to know who was still available to ally with. Scum will surely be watching that closely, to have an idea of what sort of blocs of votes might come out of said alliances and to have an idea of where they might want to place a kill in order to diminish the effectiveness of an alliances conversation tomorrow/deny someone the alliance, but town might be lazier, and we should all be aware. Honestly, both those posts were just things I would have done just to have the information easily available to look at myself in the future without having to reread etc, but I didn't see any reason to not share what I saw with everyone else.
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Wow, so you won't WOT me? That's really tempting, dude. Also, I great conversation started.
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That's fine, I mean, I guess it begs the question of why, but I could probably find that answer in your iso, which I'll go check now that you responded.
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Huh. alright, so I read your ISO, and you don't actually say why you think I'm scummy, you just say you like the first three options presented in 755, and then voted for me shortly thereafter. I guess I do have to ask why you think I'm scummy.
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In regards to 755, you said you liked the first three(as scum/lynch options). What made you disregard the other three options grapes presented, that is, tunnelwarriors/skybird/ragingbull?
pedit: Yeah, I kinda missed that, and then saw a naked vote and didn't really think too much of it. And sure, explanation is always good. I'm gonna be mobile too(clubbing time) so maybe we should stick to simple questions.
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