Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[notscience]

Mollie is cdb doing this things you warned me to watch out for him doing to me to you

Because it looks like that to me so im going to flip again

[scotmany12]

Davsto you admit yourself that you haven't been acting too town-like and then are suspicious when people want to vote you for it?

DO SOMETHING PLEASE

Nonono

People voting me? Fine. Loads of people going "who's in for a Davsto lynch" "man I want to vote Davsto" "hm who else would vote Davsto?" "are people agreeing with me on Davsto?" whilst I have a total of zero votes on me? Ew.

Why? I don't see a problem with it. You've been scummy this game, so it's understandable that you could be people's 2nd or 3rd choice (I still prefer a Matt or AJ lynch). Town has to compromise a bunch in order to reach lynches so there shouldn't be a problem with this.

I agree that davstros vote on AJ is just awful.

Unless I'm missing something, MattP's vote on bbm just comes down to him being an asshole. Which is not indicative of alignment.

At work so that's all for now.

[scotmany12]

Actually. One more thing.

It's honestly pretty bizarre that Reck has a scumread on PM considering that he knows her in real life. Some other people I have considerably lower expectations of.

Why is this bizarre?

[pirate mollie]

Can I just call both cdb and mollie town and call it a day

you can sit in the scum pile now

go back to your scum pt that way you won't feel lonely!

this is interesting

why am I scum?

in all of the time that I have known you have never misread me when you have been town. not in f2f not in forum games.

you are not doing jack shit and you have managed to completely ignore star who was repeatedly asking for you earlier. your vote on me is horseshit and I think that you are banking on my awsum charismatix (lol, NOT) to get me lynched. that you think notty and I are BOTH scum screams scum!reck.

and actually:

VOTE: reck

[Flameaxe]

That vote is horrendous.

[pirate mollie]

Mollie is cdb doing this things you warned me to watch out for him doing to me to you

Because it looks like that to me so im going to flip again

I really need to sit down and look at reck's rehash game and see what cdb did there, I skimmed it last night to see if cdb went after me in that game and I don't think he did. if he wld have unvoted and put some honest thought into figuring me out I wldn't think this, even if he thought about it and revoted me but he isn't doing that, at all. I seem to remember scum!cdb being super sticky with votes but eh, I want to really look at that game again cos if cdb IS town then we need to get our shit together and not let what happened asofai happen here.

[xRECKONERx]

its a protown move cos he is trying keep his 2 (mistaken IMO) town reads from tunneling each other.

without engaging with any of the content? okay sure

[pirate mollie]

watching zito go after bins in such a patronizing vaguely sexist way makes me wonder about him cos if he cannot see that bins is town by now then I don't even.

dafuq

I want it clearly stated that i do NOT think you are a sexist by any means, otherwise we wld be having a different conversation. but "your pretty little head" is an inherently sexist comment cos the implication is that "pretty" is all that bins (or any female, really) head is capable of since they are not intelligent enough to have anything else. the phrase comes from a time when women were primarily used for reproduction and decoration and not much else.

I was mostly just making a note to myself to revisit that and have a discussion with you on it post game.

[pirate mollie]

its a protown move cos he is trying keep his 2 (mistaken IMO) town reads from tunneling each other.

without engaging with any of the content? okay sure

you mean like you have done with me? okay sure

[MattP]

Unless I'm missing something, MattP's vote on bbm just comes down to him being an asshole. Which is not indicative of alignment.

That's inaccurate, what I dislike about Flameaxe is specifically how he responds aggressively to mild scrutiny of his play. The only generalized over-aggression from him I particularly dislike is his interaction with Marquis. Yeah, town play aggressively too, but there is a distinction to me with regards to how he's played.

On a more peripheral level, his content doesn't have any apparent direction, but I care less about that at least right now. But combined with the fact that the only content he HAS provide is directed aggression and vaguely buddying Papa Zito, who I consider a threat to scum and someone Flameaxe is obviously familiar with, I think there is nothing redeeming about his play. I don't think these are inherently scummy points in a vacuum.

Actually. One more thing.

It's honestly pretty bizarre that Reck has a scumread on PM considering that he knows her in real life. Some other people I have considerably lower expectations of.

Why is this bizarre?

I think I clearly explained it is because Reck knows PM well, and after meeting her in public I think it puts her tone into a very understandable town-oriented context.

I have no interest in voting Reck if that's what you're moving towards.

[xRECKONERx]

Can I just call both cdb and mollie town and call it a day

you can sit in the scum pile now

go back to your scum pt that way you won't feel lonely!

this is interesting

why am I scum?

in all of the time that I have known you have never misread me when you have been town. not in f2f not in forum games.

you are not doing jack shit and you have managed to completely ignore star who was repeatedly asking for you earlier. your vote on me is horseshit and I think that you are banking on my awsum charismatix (lol, NOT) to get me lynched. that you think notty and I are BOTH scum screams scum!reck.

and actually:

VOTE: reck

ive barely played any forum games w/ you mollie

i literally dont know why you try to bring this up. the only game i actually remember playing with you ever is The Reckoning III Invitational -- other than the Team Mafia game, where you replaced out. I was able to townread you pretty easily in those games. I'm not townreading you easily here, which is literally the entirety of why I'm voting for you. Not to mention, you've yet to try to reach out to me or pay me literally ANY attention

In Team Mafia you made a HUGE DEAL about how I was sorta lurking and not engaging much and you specifically reached out to me in order to drag me into the game. Part of the reason I've been sorta lurky is because I was waiting to see if you'd do that here, and you didn't. You basically ignored me completely, and that's what sealed the deal of you being scum to me

you're trying to use f2f mafia meta to explain forum interactions and that's FUCKING STUPID STOP BEING FUCKING STUPID

[xRECKONERx]

its a protown move cos he is trying keep his 2 (mistaken IMO) town reads from tunneling each other.

without engaging with any of the content? okay sure

you mean like you have done with me? okay sure

YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES JESUS CHRIST YOU'RE THICK

HAND WAVING AN ENTIRE ARGUMENT AWAY AS TOWN V TOWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO ENGAGE W/ THE CONTENT AND TAKE A STANCE

VERSUS

CALLING SOMEONE SCUM AND SLOWROLLING INTO A VOTE/CASE/ARGUMENT WITH THEM

CAN YOU NOT FUCKING SEE THE DIFFERENCE

[Bins]

That vote is horrendous.

WHY

no, seriously, why?

[Papa Zito]

watching zito go after bins in such a patronizing vaguely sexist way makes me wonder about him cos if he cannot see that bins is town by now then I don't even.

dafuq

I want it clearly stated that i do NOT think you are a sexist by any means, otherwise we wld be having a different conversation. but "your pretty little head" is an inherently sexist comment cos the implication is that "pretty" is all that bins (or any female, really) head is capable of since they are not intelligent enough to have anything else. the phrase comes from a time when women were primarily used for reproduction and decoration and not much else.

I was mostly just making a note to myself to revisit that and have a discussion with you on it post game.

p sure I've used similar language with dudes but ok sure



ugh the meta it's a maelstrom of silliness

[MattP]

That vote is horrendous.

WHY

no, seriously, why?

I dislike that post from Flameaxe btw just wanted to point that out

[curiouskarmadog]

hoping to have time to update tonight.

[xRECKONERx]

I think I clearly explained it is because Reck knows PM well, and after meeting her in public I think it puts her tone into a very understandable town-oriented context.

Here's some context: mollie posts and thinks like she is half in reality and half living in a fucking acid trip.

She has half conversations in her head then randomly blurts stuff out and fails to grasp basic trains of thought because her brain is something entirely unique and special and awesome. It makes engaging with her on purely logical grounds fairly complicated and messy, though.

What is telling about mollie here, I think, is that she ignored me all game considering our relationship. In Team Mafia, she specifically poked and prodded at me to try and get reactions and get me to engage with the game. Here she didn't do any of that. That's mostly what formed my scumread. It's meta based and weird and kinda bad because I dislike meta, but for an early game scumread, it's perfectly fine with me. I also think at some point it crosses from meta into continued avoidance. I expressed suspicions of mollie several times to see if she'd engage w/ me and she ignored me. At that point, it's no longer meta. At that point, it's "okay mollie is actively avoiding things".

[xRECKONERx]

you are not doing jack shit and you have managed to completely ignore star who was repeatedly asking for you earlier.

oh and this part? wrong

take a look at how I've engaged w/ Starbuck AND HOW STARBUCK KNEW EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING (aka I was lurking, waiting for Starbuck's catchup posts so I can get a read on her)

we've been over this. time to catch up on the 21st century mollie

[Flameaxe]

That vote is horrendous.

WHY

no, seriously, why?

The whole vote boils down to "town Reck doesn't misread me as scum" which is a heaping pile of dogshit. PM spouts off these town reads like they are a godsend and strikes at Reck for having a different opinion? Nothing about that vote says anything other than an opportunistic jump to me.

Keep pushing that counter wagon hard Matt. It almost tickles.

[MattP]

I think I clearly explained it is because Reck knows PM well, and after meeting her in public I think it puts her tone into a very understandable town-oriented context.

Here's some context: mollie posts and thinks like she is half in reality and half living in a fucking acid trip.

She has half conversations in her head then randomly blurts stuff out and fails to grasp basic trains of thought because her brain is something entirely unique and special and awesome. It makes engaging with her on purely logical grounds fairly complicated and messy, though.

What is telling about mollie here, I think, is that she ignored me all game considering our relationship. In Team Mafia, she specifically poked and prodded at me to try and get reactions and get me to engage with the game. Here she didn't do any of that. That's mostly what formed my scumread. It's meta based and weird and kinda bad because I dislike meta, but for an early game scumread, it's perfectly fine with me. I also think at some point it crosses from meta into continued avoidance. I expressed suspicions of mollie several times to see if she'd engage w/ me and she ignored me. At that point, it's no longer meta. At that point, it's "okay mollie is actively avoiding things".

Sure, I appreciate your PoV.

[MattP]

Keep pushing that counter wagon hard Matt. It almost tickles.

Np, I'd engage with you but I already know you don't care about my opinions

[Flameaxe]

Give me something I can actually reply to and I can.

[MattP]

Give me something I can actually reply to and I can.

What's your opinion of Bins?

[Flameaxe]

Keep pushing that counter wagon hard Matt. It almost tickles.

Np, I'd engage with you but I already know you don't care about my opinions

Additionally, if anyone wants to offer up a reason a post like this comes from town, I'm all ears.

[MattP]

Additionally, if anyone wants to offer up a reason a post like this comes from town, I'm all ears.

I recognize the possibility you could be town regardless of my current opinion of you