Mini 1730: Suikoden U-Pick GAME OVER

[Titus]

The only reason that's not gun to your head autodeath LQ was Drixx was equally as stupid in We Didn't Play test this.

You both need to stop posting otherwise I am just going to votepark on the biggest wagon that's on one of you. You're going at it for pages making it hard to communicate with everyone else.

[Blackest Magick]

The game mod is obviously not voting in the game, ergo he had that account activated and gave it to the appropriate player to use.

I'm trying to decide if you actually could possibly believe that a game mod would be voting in his game, or if you were trying to accomplish something with that post.

It's a mod mechanic that will probably sort itself out soon enough. Not something we should be considering lynching.

Blackest Magick: this game has more than enough content for people to have opinions on. Share yours.
-Cerb

titus/fire/ranger/suzune/brantz

[Titus]

Why those scumreads?

[Reasonably Rational]

BM: what you just posted is worthless. Give me reasons. Tell me if that's a list of town reads or scum reads. Also, the value in lynching said extra vote comes from the possibly incorrect assumption that Bright's alignment when flipped would match with the alignment of their creator. The thought isn't that it needs to be removed...the thought is that lynching it will result in either the removal of a scum tool, or confirmation of a players alignment. That's really more of an "in the event nobody seems obvscum today" option though. To that end, I had to place my vote on it to determine whether or not it was something we could vote for.

Titus, my previous question still stands. Also, just a point, I NEVER look at youtube videos posted. I do a lot of my playing via mobile and/or at work where looking at those videos isn't an option or simply wouldn't be enjoyable, so I don't do it.

I do second Titus' assertion that the game thread would be much cleaner if LQ and Jeanne refrained from posting for a bit so we can engage with other individuals.

-Cerb

[Titus]

Which question?

[Reasonably Rational]

Alright, I'm finally back! Hello everyone!

Titus: Please explain what the hell you were doing asking ME, of all people, for a "gut read" on D1? I don't really give reads D1, period, and if I do give a read, it's not going to be a "gut read", it's going to be a read where I tell you exactly why I feel the way I do about a given slot. Also explain the logical inconsistencies in your play. Drixx mentioned this earlier, and I know you didn't respond in a fashion that had me nodding in agreement. In what universe do scum act in a fashion that exposes themselves, when an ability is activated which they KNOW they didn't activate, and the person who did activate it stated that it was one of their powers? I'm sure we do have information now, that we wouldn't have had otherwise, but your reasoning behind the play is terrible. That, more than anything else, worries me about you. I feel like you're scum Titus who just tried to leverage some power to buy yourself a bunch of town cred and discredit others(since you can interpret the vote movements however you want, really, especially D1...until we get some flips that vote is largely useless). In short, what you are and have been doing does not make sense. Start making sense.

Ranger: The value of analysis of RVS on D1, with no further information, comes from meta knowledge. Do you have knowledge of wgeurts meta such that his 11 and 13 gave you cause to scum read him? If so, link to the games in question, and expand on what said meta knowledge is. In addition, why wouldn't you wait until further information came from the thread to make your move and mark him? It's suboptimal play, in every way. It's strictly superior to wait until later in the day phase to make said mark, unless you expect there to be a vig that might shoot you. You'll get more information, you'll see how more people react who are already invested in conversations, you can note who takes the opportunity to change the subject, etc. The play you made is objectively inferior, even if you do actually have a good reason to scum read someone(which I find highly unlikely).

Jeanne11: You are tinfoil hat crazy right now. Stop it please. The game would be a lot better off if you just stopped responding to wgeurts etc. for, say, 36 hours, so we can start talking about all the other people in this game. I say this even though I am certain you are either scum or incredibly incompetent. There are no other explanations for ruining the plan Titus had set up by jumping the gun. I'm going to advise Drixx to ignore you for the rest of the day, and I'm going to ignore you as well, because you aren't helping the game state at all. You're just spamming the thread.

Those are the first thoughts off the top of my head. I might do some isoing later, I might not, no guarantees, we'll see what happens...but really, guys. look to the people who aren't involved in this huge drama in the middle of the thread for the scum.

-Cerb

[Titus]

@Cerb, I wanted you to engage. So I asked you for a read. Any read.

Notice how I said anti-town, not scum. Really, my post was crafted to get the result I wanted. We get a lot of engagement and we can determine there's next to no bussing. You seem to think that scum would default to thinking that vote by PM = town and that's absurd.

[Reasonably Rational]

My point is that there is no information gained from that vote which is usable today, and your assertion that would be is fundamentally flawed.

-Cerb

[Blackest Magick]

To that end, I had to place my vote on it to determine whether or not it was something we could vote for.

Fair enough.

Tell me if that's a list of town reads or scum reads.

not sure if srs

Titus - Don't like the gambit, just looks like an attempt to earn some townreads. Also looks like an ability that would be given to scum and intended to use anonymously. Hasn't looked town overall. Early on, didn't like her accusing LQ of rolefishing, or saying that my RVS was the worst she's ever seen.

Fire - maybe scum, content:fluff ratio seems high and they've joined the primary wagons and not much else.

Ranger - Really didn't like his post saying i'm confirmed scum. Especially on D1. People who do that to me are usually scum. Would love to wagon this.

Suzune - She's being highly active without being major influence on the game. Not picking up town tells. Gut, mostly.

Brantz - He will remain in my lynch pool unless he does something townie.

VOTE: Ranger

[Titus]

My point is that there is no information gained from that vote which is usable today, and your assertion that would be is fundamentally flawed.

-Cerb

VCA isn't meant to be done Day 1. Still flipping LQ would do shittons in proving my theory as you believe that Suzune/Elbrin/Jeanne are town right?

My assertion isn't flawed. If my plan failed at all, it's because of Jeanne saying "scum" instead of anti-town. Still think it netted us LQ and wgeurts as scum. BM is likely the third.

[Blackest Magick]

lol

[wgeurts]

Titus, you're wrrroooonnnngg.
Like really wrong.

[Elbirn]

I read the past million pages and have nothing to add *sips soda*

[wgeurts]

Am I now town?

[FireKari]

Isnt that her messaging?
Also if what you say is true there's likely 1 scum in that hood.

Hoods are not alignment indicative..

I'm happy with Jeanne for now. She hasn't done much yet but she has a very casual tone. She feels relaxed. I liek it.

Keep an eye on her for me. Make sure I am not hoowinked k?

We can see why you might be, but those are not alignment indicative.

[FireKari]

Just a heads up, but we will be v/la nov 4-5.
Also, to any1 who suspects us, we can prolly conftown d2.

~Yukari

[Elbirn]

Am I now town?

If you vote LQ the answer might be yes

[Reasonably Rational]

My point is that there is no information gained from that vote which is usable today, and your assertion that would be is fundamentally flawed.

-Cerb

VCA isn't meant to be done Day 1. Still flipping LQ would do shittons in proving my theory as you believe that Suzune/Elbrin/Jeanne are town right?

My assertion isn't flawed. If my plan failed at all, it's because of Jeanne saying "scum" instead of anti-town. Still think it netted us LQ and wgeurts as scum. BM is likely the third.

I don't particularly find any of those slots to be town.

-Cerb

[Titus]

Error Titus Robot mentioned 8 slots.

Titus robot also forgot Klingon as a scumread.

[wgeurts]

MOD: Can we have a VC and some prods?

[Elbirn]

Vc yes, everyone else while not very active, have still posted within the last 24 hours. I think prods are 72 hours or 48 hours by request but idk everyone's rules are different I think

Prod Policy was changed for this game (since it has less players/shorter deadlines) to being 48 hours.
It was up to 72 hours when I was running SU mafia because nights were 72 hours and had a ton of actions to process.
No one is eligible for a prod as of VC 1.12, anyway.

[Titus]

@BM/LQ/Wgeurts, Thoughts on Klingon please!

[wgeurts]

Possibbly scum, nothing particulary town but nothing that stands out and makes me think wow that's scummy.

[LicketyQuickety]

I went through Klings ISO and saw some Scum hunting. That's an ok sign I guess. I nailed Kling last game we were both in for not doing that and they were Scum who didn't get lynched fwiw.

[FireKari]

We have 2 scumleans, 1 null, and 1 townlean on Kling.
~Yukari