Prozac's Basic Theme 4 - Murder in Marlowe - OVER!

[notscience]

Mollie I don't like your bins vote.

*note I am not saying I think you are scum because of it I disagree with it*

[notscience]

I have a question

Why am I scum

[scotmany12]

UNVOTE

[Flameaxe]

With the fact that KMD just replaced in, I think he should be given a chance to at least get in the game and add some substance. These quick votes with little to no reason are kinda bad.

everyone voting me isn't thinking logically and/or being oppurtunistic cause I'm in an awful spot having believe esp.

If I'd vote you I'd have a myriad of reasons which have nothing to do with esp.

Same here.

Off topic, can we get a like button for the forums? Flameaxe has made me really LOL so many times in this game.

anyways

vla til Thursday

I won't even be opening the site during this time.

have fun
if you lynch me
I think notscience could be scum and maybe Nexus but I wanna read through to actually see how likely that is.
And also I'll forgive you.
Minus BBM.

Sorry for trying to play the game, Bins. :/

like I'm seriously so town right now
maybe not good
fine BBM call me useless
Or CDK call me bad town but
I'm pretty town. And I'm almost immediately suspicious of anyone who isn't seeing this.

Barf Simpson~

I still don't see a lie?

Like when did he say he was a cop?

Man, Espe looked legit to me.

Anyways, night.

The straws aren't going to grasp themselves right?

I'm also not voting still.

Vote: Bins

. CHOO CHOOOOOOOOO

[scotmany12]

What do you think about what kmd said, bbm?

[Flameaxe]

Seems like he's wasting his time dancing on his tippy toes for no reason

[Davsto]

Bins continues "rargh it was TERRIBLE that people lynched this claimed investigative" feels almost like a scum partner who's miffed that their partner got called out.

Also, her "even if he is scum..." comment is obviously bad. It's like she's trying to set up to lynch people when Espe flips scum but trying to do it nonchalantly as if she doesn't know that Espe is scum.

[mykonian]

oh no, davsto, we are way beyond that point. If she were scum and that was where those posts originated, after the way the lynch went yesterday she would have been well aware that she'd get flak for it and tried to make up for it by going balls deep on the topic. Today, it won't be a sign of some subconcious defending of here buddy, it would be a concious choice to gain a bit of a townread from the situation by taking the unpopular stance and running with it. There's a lot to be said for it, tbf, between the fact that she did seem to try to catch that issue early this day and that she does seem a bit stuck in this debate.

But I don't dare to call if this annoyance is played or real and obviously it's part of the question whether she's choosing to continue that discussion or feels the need to. Answer that question and you know bins's allignment, I think.

I am perfectly happy having this day go a while, the three existing wagons interest me. About the CDB wagon, I think we have to take into consideration that this was CDB. Flaking is a known risk, and I don't know if it's really allignment indicative for him. Hence, I could happily give KMD a day to make something happen, get another angle on reading that slot.

[Kmd4390]

Not sure how far I'll get, but here's my start. Sorry if stuff is outdated but I'd like to develop reads and understand gameflow so I'm starting from the beginning.

Page 1:
Mollie's page 1 would have probably earned my vote. I feel like she's trying to subtly buddy Zito. Like she's trying to talk how he does and look good to him or something. I could be biased because I know Zito was town, but the tone of her posts is just fake and the interaction reeks.

Page 2:
Not sure how I feel about Starbuck wagoning without acknowledging the wagon. I'd like to see some follow up before I judge too much, but it doesn't look good at first glance.

Page 3:
Spiff's buddying of Dav stands out, but once I get a better idea of his personality/posting style, I'll have a better idea if it's scummy or not

I'm liking Dav for town. He seems comfortable saying what's on his mind. He's talking about how everyone's join dates are so much older than his, but he doesn't seem worried about slipping up. He's open and transparent. I actually like Spiff here too for noticing the same thing and also pointing out that Dav questioning a town read on him is townish.

Page 4:
Zito makes a good point about Reck's vote being shit and also making a counterwagon. It's a little less shit if Reck hasn't played with BBM much and because Reck's wagon is RVSish, but still kinda shit and enough for me to have a weak early scum read on him.

Can't help but notice CKD posting without really acknowledging anything going on.

Reads update. Mollie still scum. Starbuck and Reck maybe scum. Spiff and Dav town. I'm kind of coming around to notscience town. CKD could be scum but I wanna see more.

Page 5:
Mollie calling out Strangercoug, Coug's response, and Mollie's vote with a lack of a case or even reason feels like scum theater.

Page 6:
BBM's Coug vote followed by calling out Scot's Coug vote could be scum, but I'd be surprised if both he and Mollie voted a scumbuddy here so I'm going with Mollie/BBM probably aren't scum together and if BBM is scum, Scot probably isn't.

Page 7:
Actually Scot is probably town regardless of BBM's alignment.

CKD's Marquis vote and Spiff theater accusation don't feel right. Maybe because Marquis flipped town and I'm townreading Spiff so I don't like what I disagree with, but I dunno. It just feels...off. The request for an explanation on the Strangercoug wagon doesn't make me feel any better.

AJ's really bad Spiff vote makes me feel even better about Spiff. And then Spiff calls out Strangercoug/AJ as a possible team. That feels too ballsy if he was scum with them.

Page 9:
Not sure why Nexus thought catboi would tells us he is cocky as scum and then act cocky as scum immediately but ok. His vote being gone today probably makes him town, but this is kinda gross. Meh. Probably just a genuine bad read I guess.

Page 10:
Marquis made a case on CKD and died N1. Just putting that out there. He also seems overly annoyed by the vote.

I'm 180ing on Mollie. She looks town now.

Through Page 11 and catching myself skimming more than reading. I have to be up in about 5 hours and I'm working 16 hour days the next two days, so I'll do more on my three days off after that. For right now, CKD is my strongest scum read. Not really confident in any after that. Spiff and Dav are my strongest town reads.

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:

I'm fine with letting KMD catch up

[curiouskarmadog]

skimming

For right now, CKD is my strongest scum read. Not really confident in any after that. Spiff and Dav are my strongest town reads.

I have a VERY strong suspicion*. this is how this "read" is going to end.

why dont you just skip to the end already.

My vote will most likely be on KMD today (I need to read today fully though to be sure).

[curiouskarmadog]

*not a soft claim

[Kmd4390]

Were you scumreading CDB or is that just OMGUS?

[mykonian]

Just omgus. Please continue.

[curiouskarmadog]

Just omgus. Please continue.

Kmd is supposedly reading. What is your excuse?

[curiouskarmadog]

Were you scumreading CDB or is that just OMGUS?

What are you REALLY* asking me here? Or do you already know the answer?

[curiouskarmadog]

I am caught up. Nothing today is changing my read from yesterday

Vote: Kmd

Changed from CDB as votecounter does not recognise it as ChannelDelibird or Kmd4390. (sigh) Also it apparently doesn't work if you don't embolden the colon either. - Prozac

[Kmd4390]

Just omgus. Please continue.

Kmd is supposedly reading. What is your excuse?

Supposedly? Do you think I posted stuff without reading? This reeks of adding words to make normal actions sound bad. 100+ pages is tough and comments like this annoy me when I'm making an honest attempt despite long work days and taking care of a baby.

What are you REALLY* asking me here? Or do you already know the answer?

No, I haven't read enough to already know if you were scumreading CDB. Any reason you didn't answer? (Although your next post strongly implies it)

[mykonian]

Just omgus. Please continue.

Kmd is supposedly reading. What is your excuse?

Thought it was a stupid question and wasn't interested in your answer. It's a dead end.

[Porochaz]

Caitlin Hay would get hooked on something and try and be the best at it, she would become obsessed. She decided she wanted to be the top businesswoman in the world, so she worked at it. She wanted to donate the most to charity, so she worked at that. She wanted to be the most successful murderer in the world, so she got to work doing that as well.

Vote Count 3.01

Bins

(3): Davsto, pirate mollie, Flameaxe

Kmd4390

(2): notscience, curiouskarmadog

xRECKONERx

(1): mykonian

Not Voting

(6): scotmany12, xRECKONERx, Kmd4390, Starbuck, Spiffeh, Bins

With 13 alive and 12 votes, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2015-11-22 21:00:00)

[curiouskarmadog]

I am caught up. Nothing today is changing my read from yesterday

Vote: Kmd

Changed from CDB as votecounter does not recognise it as ChannelDelibird or Kmd4390. (sigh) Also it apparently doesn't work if you don't embolden the colon either. - Prozac

Sorry mod on phone today

[curiouskarmadog]

Just omgus. Please continue.

Kmd is supposedly reading. What is your excuse?

Supposedly? Do you think I posted stuff without reading? This reeks of adding words to make normal actions sound bad. 100+ pages is tough and comments like this annoy me when I'm making an honest attempt despite long work days and taking care of a baby.

What are you REALLY* asking me here? Or do you already know the answer?

No, I haven't read enough to already know if you were scumreading CDB. Any reason you didn't answer? (Although your next post strongly implies it)

So you asked the question without at least skimming a vote count to check? Why? What was the real purpose of the question then?

[Kmd4390]

I'm gonna do a little more reading just to help me stay awake until my son naps.

Page 12:
Mollie's reaction to BBM's Dav vote reaffirms my belief that the two of them are unlikely to be scum together (mollie/BBM that is)

I don't see how Reck can only have one read and even that is a town read that he's paranoid about.

Page 13:
CKD's notscience callout feels easy and fake. Like he's never seen town post town reads or something. And notscience not explaining stuff at first is nothing new.

Dav is still showing that transparent care free attitude and is still town for it.

Page 15:
Starbuck asking if it's normal to list town reads feels like a weird piggyback on what CKD already said. Like she's intentionally adding fuel to the fire. But this probably only makes sense if she wants to get CKD ranting, so if this is a scumtell, CKD would have to be town. Consider it to be in the very back of my mind. However, her calling the Strangercoug wagon (but not the earlier Reck one) "easy and opportunistic" is closer to the front of my mind. Also, mollie's point that Starbuck is "making excuses for" Strangercoug looks much stronger in hindsight than it would have before Coug's flip.

Spiff's AJ vote is pretty solid.

Page 16:
Oh, cool notscience already made one of my CKD points. The thought that it could be a "different times playstyle clash" is interesting, but I don't even think not sharing town reads was really THAT big back in the day. I mean, people would refuse to share their town reads and it made sense, but I don't really remember people being scumread because they DID share town reads. And it's not like the entire playerlist would do it either. It was like one or two people in each game at most.

Mollie's whole let me answer so notscience can read me thing feels like town who wants to let a town read get a genuine read.

Page 17:
Starbuck's questioning of BBM is actually pretty good. I can't decide on a read on either of these two for sure. I'm kind of thinking one scum and one town, but not sure why, or which is which...

Page 18:
I disagree with a lot of Reck's reads and find his placement of flipped scums on his list interesting.

Through 19. Gonna sleep a couple hours, go to work, and see you guys Wednesday. I'll probably check in before work though

Preview edit: yeah, I'm lazy and hate going from page to page on my phone so I just asked. Seemed easier than ISOing the mod and checking every vote count or ISOing you and looking for every mention of CDB. Tell me what you think the dirty ulterior motive is in all of that anyway.

[Bins]

UNVOTE

I think I know where you're coming from with this and that's town.

oh no, davsto, we are way beyond that point. If she were scum and that was where those posts originated, after the way the lynch went yesterday she would have been well aware that she'd get flak for it and tried to make up for it by going balls deep on the topic. Today, it won't be a sign of some subconcious defending of here buddy, it would be a concious choice to gain a bit of a townread from the situation by taking the unpopular stance and running with it. There's a lot to be said for it, tbf, between the fact that she did seem to try to catch that issue early this day and that she does seem a bit stuck in this debate.

But I don't dare to call if this annoyance is played or real and obviously it's part of the question whether she's choosing to continue that discussion or feels the need to. Answer that question and you know bins's allignment, I think.

I am perfectly happy having this day go a while, the three existing wagons interest me. About the CDB wagon, I think we have to take into consideration that this was CDB. Flaking is a known risk, and I don't know if it's really allignment indicative for him. Hence, I could happily give KMD a day to make something happen, get another angle on reading that slot.

Shutting down Dav with a post like this is town as well.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: reckoner