Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[Spiffeh]

CB thoughts on Saki lynch?

[CharlotteBebe]

rogue scares me.
i feel really dumb because i keep thinking about voting someone and getting uncomfortable.
saki is abrasive which makes him hard to read.
*fetal position*

[3dicerolling]

Let's break down firebringer's though process:

you look scummier than FB right now.
just fyi.
;D

Idc.

@titus - How do you feel about the speed this saki wagon has materialized?

[Spiffeh]

I don't want to give up itlepip can you please come over here?

[CharlotteBebe]

zzzzzzzzzz.
3dice.
theres a day left in the cycle.
why are you even trying to pitch speed of wagon as meaning anything?

[3dicerolling]

zzzzzzzzzz.
3dice.
theres a day left in the cycle.
why are you even trying to pitch speed of wagon as meaning anything?

Maybe because one player I've felt uneasy about all game and one player I'm scumreading just hopped on it?

[CharlotteBebe]

then why are you not asking titus about them joining it specifically rather than framing it as a speed of wagon issue?

[itlepip]

zzzzzzzzzz.
3dice.
theres a day left in the cycle.
why are you even trying to pitch speed of wagon as meaning anything?

Maybe because one player I've felt uneasy about all game and one player I'm scumreading just hopped on it?

Do you have any reads besides me being scum?? you are worse than spiffeh, who at least moved the game forward and developed other reads.

[Titus]

Let's break down firebringer's though process:

you look scummier than FB right now.
just fyi.
;D

Idc.

@titus - How do you feel about the speed this saki wagon has materialized?

Rogue wanted it badly and it's been discussed all day. Mario's better but it's not terrible. Saki's not scummy just a jerk discrediting my posts as moonlogic.

[Rogue]

titus mario isnt getting lynched.

[Titus]

He's the biggest wagon and I feel scum are countering him unless I'm wrong about Mario being biggest. With your vote Rogue it could happen.

Work brb.

[Rogue]

no he's not.

[3dicerolling]

then why are you not asking titus about them joining it specifically rather than framing it as a speed of wagon issue?

Spiffeh also suggest he would compromise on saki. That's 3 players in less than 5 minutes. I'm not really sure what you are getting at here.

zzzzzzzzzz.
3dice.
theres a day left in the cycle.
why are you even trying to pitch speed of wagon as meaning anything?

Maybe because one player I've felt uneasy about all game and one player I'm scumreading just hopped on it?

Do you have any reads besides me being scum?? you are worse than spiffeh, who at least moved the game forward and developed other reads.

Not sure why you are freaking out, I'm not even voting you right now. And yes I do, I just usually don't post reads that often because I find that scum can manipulate me easier when they know my current status on people.

Town:
Cold Pizza
Titus (strong entrance, scum hunting)
Spiffeh (His reasoning on Itlepip is surprisingly similar to my thought process in most of my town games)
MM4 (Mainly gut and his reactions to wagon, but I think soft claim is townish as well)

Townish:
Maxous (I like his thought process)
Firebringer (Even though he's scumreading Titus and I, I just think he's off. I was townreading gilga too)
CharlotteBebe (I liked much of their early game arguments against PFoS, but the fizzle out has left them closer to null for me now)

Meh:
Rogue (I didn't like mollie or notscience's play, but mala has me more confused)
Antihero (I don't know if he is scum or apathetic)
Saki (I think they lost the arguments with CB, but I'm not sure that necessarily makes them scum)

Scum:
Itlepip (Reactions to wagon, asking for full claim of MM4, and just gut in general. I was beginning to town read, but his recent posts have shot him back into scum)
Suzune (Awkward posting, her vote is parked on spiffeh, my strong town read, don't really see much scum hunting, I could go on)

Let's break down firebringer's though process:

you look scummier than FB right now.
just fyi.
;D

Idc.

@titus - How do you feel about the speed this saki wagon has materialized?

Rogue wanted it badly and it's been discussed all day. Mario's better but it's not terrible. Saki's not scummy just a jerk discrediting my posts as moonlogic.

What is moonlogic?

[itlepip]

I never asked for a claim, I just said that the soft claim is bad and I don't like Mario for it. Especially at L-3, claiming a really important PR but not specifying which tells scum to kill him without giving town information in order to determine if Mario is town or not.

[3dicerolling]

Yeah you have to go further than an important role if you want me to unvote.

I still hate the Suzanne wagon

What can this imply other than wanting a full role claim?

Also, what if mm4 super important town role is like a BP? Then scum would shoot him and he wouldn't die. Town knowing him as BP would be useless and just ward scum away from lynching him.

[itlepip]

Yeah you have to go further than an important role if you want me to unvote.

I still hate the Suzanne wagon

What can this imply other than wanting a full role claim?

Also, what if mm4 super important town role is like a BP? Then scum would shoot him and he wouldn't die. Town knowing him as BP would be useless and just ward scum away from lynching him.

I didn't consider some WIFOM, assuming I live to tomorrow I'll talk about it but for now I think it is best to let the matter die. Claiming at l-3 is still dumb, and claiming 'an important role' doesn't put the same burden of proof as actually claiming a role, hence why I said that I wouldn't unvote because of the softclaim.

[MarioManiac4]

Claim pleas from itle won't work.
Willing to wagon anybody not conftown at this point.

[itlepip]

Mario, what is your take on Saki? you only have 1 post in which you ever actually have her name in it, which is your blank readlist where she is just in the middle.

[Titus]

@3dice, It's a a rude way of stating you're reads make no sense and I'm not going to try.

@Rogue

Votecount Please

[Flay Gunnar]

votecount 1.33

itlepip (4) - Spiffeh, Cold Pizza, Maxous, MarioManiac4
Spiffeh (1) - Suzune
CharlotteBebe (1) - Saki
MarioManiac4 (3) - Antihero, Vayne Aurelius, Titus
Suzune (2) - 3dicerolling, CharlotteBebe
Saki (3) - Firebringer, Rogue, itlepip

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 13, 17:50 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-11-13 17:50:00).

Please let me know if you see any mistakes.

[3dicerolling]

@3dice, It's a a rude way of stating you're reads make no sense and I'm not going to try.

@Rogue

Votecount Please

Where did he discredit your posts as moonlogic?

[Titus]

ah, the classic titus moonlogic train
fuck my life
In post 580, Antihero wrote:
half tempted to hammer itlepip for lolz
In post 584, notscience wrote:
Here after more legend league.
you guys really have no intention of playing day one, do you
In post 588, Titus wrote:
Why not just say "us" or "the town"?
please dont start the linguistic tells thing
its not worth the trouble

Post 592

[Firebringer]

Look at that saki wagon, and spiffeh said it was impossible pffftt

Shows what he knows.

[Suzune]

Suzune what are your thoughts on itlepip and Mario?

I feel like I have given my thoughts on itlepip many times over because this it is what lead to my vote on you. As for Mario, he is one I have not yet commented on. The one thing I do not get about Mario is that he has been in the game the entire time however, he has been unable to get any reads. He is always commenting about not getting into the game. Then the minute he needs something he takes the vote of opportunity, because I am scummy apparently for making reads too slow, and then sticks with it there.

[Saki]

VOTE: Saki

choo choo saki wagon

i honestly dont give a fuck about this game anymore
i thought mafia was going to be a challenging but enjoyable mental exercise and its doing nothing but stressing me out

pretty much everyone in this game is playing like a sack of shit
i dont fucking know why i have a wagon when i havent seen a single good reason as to why i am scum other than 'lol gut read' and 'saki wagon is gaining traction'
literally the only person to mention any specific posts that i made were firebringer (who called my fleeting scumread on gilgamesh scummy and said nothing about his predecessors omgus vote or shoddy play) and titus (who is complaining about me calling her play full of moonlogic; its fucking true though)