NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Fro99er]

(expired on 2015-12-13 14:30:00)

(Sun Dec 13 @ 2:30:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 1.05

• (2)
  Davsto
  — Titus, Shiro
  (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (5)
  MarioManiac4
  — Grib, Elyse, Frozen Angel, Aj The Epic, Dwlee99
  (0)
  Zymf
  —
  (0)
  notscience
  —
  (0)
  pignash
  —
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  Shinobi
  —
  (1)
  Grib
  — Espeonage
  (0)
  Frozen Angel
  —
  (1)
  Shiro
  — pistachi0n
  (2)
  RadiantCowbells
  — Firebringer, Davsto
  (0)
  Aj The Epic
  —
  (1)
  Titus
  — RadiantCowbells
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  (2)
  pistachi0n
  — Heat, Zymf
  (1)
  Heat
  — Shinobi
  (1)
  Dwlee99
  — MarioManiac4
  

(2)

[NOT VOTING]

— notscience, pignash

With

18

alive

, it takes

10

votes

to lynch.

[Zymf]

I've just skimmed through the whole thread since my last post..

I like MarioManiac4's case against Dwlee99 in post 322

Fire, let's be Painbringer. Double voting masons.

RC, I think I can read you well enough.

I would, but I kinda get the feeling your buddying me.
No way you already are town reading me.
Thats insane even for you.

No it's not. But OK, you'll see I can legit read you.

I think Titus was just messing around in 268, but I can understand why Firebringer might think otherwise and might think Titus is scum trying to get buddy with him.. What really bugs me is how Titus takes a defensive stance in 274.

[Fro99er]

Please note I updated the rules in Post #1 because I accidentally left off rules about the length of a night phase (48 hours) and about No Lynching

[Zymf]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

[Shinobi]

Will catch up after MtG tourney tonight.

[Dwlee99]

-facepalm-

[Shinobi]

Nah, I lied. I'm just gonna do stuff right now since I'm feeling pretty good and I want to talk about stuff.
(I'm aware dav has asked me a question but I'll answer it later.)

I've just skimmed through the whole thread since my last post..

I like MarioManiac4's case against Dwlee99 in post 322

Fire, let's be Painbringer. Double voting masons.

RC, I think I can read you well enough.

I would, but I kinda get the feeling your buddying me.
No way you already are town reading me.
Thats insane even for you.

No it's not. But OK, you'll see I can legit read you.

I think Titus was just messing around in 268, but I can understand why Firebringer might think otherwise and might think Titus is scum trying to get buddy with him.. What really bugs me is how Titus takes a defensive stance in 274.

What about that case did you agree with, particularly? It read like a bunch of nitpicky dribble to me.

[Shinobi]

Vote: Grib

Espo.
Talk to me.

What's going on with this?

[Shinobi]

Actually:

And it draws people's reactions cause they will say things like "How can you do a VCA without flips".

Did you manage to get anything out of it?

[Titus]

I've just skimmed through the whole thread since my last post..

I like MarioManiac4's case against Dwlee99 in post 322

Fire, let's be Painbringer. Double voting masons.

RC, I think I can read you well enough.

I would, but I kinda get the feeling your buddying me.
No way you already are town reading me.
Thats insane even for you.

No it's not. But OK, you'll see I can legit read you.

I think Titus was just messing around in 268, but I can understand why Firebringer might think otherwise and might think Titus is scum trying to get buddy with him.. What really bugs me is how Titus takes a defensive stance in 274.

I was saying I really liked FB. I wasn't being defensive though. *shrug* I can read FB but he's naturally paranoid of an early townread on him.

That's why I said sort me.

[Davsto]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

This is a bit of a false dilemma. Keeping my eye on you.

[Dwlee99]

Actually:

And it draws people's reactions cause they will say things like "How can you do a VCA without flips".

Did you manage to get anything out of it?

As for fire, it doesn't matter what he posts. My concern isn't reading people who're relatively easy to figure out.

can you say who are these people?

Fire , Dwel , ... ?

Notscience, Mario, Dave and probably Frozen Angel. Admittedly, Dave is an interesting case who I sometimes just don't care to read.

@AJ

That's an incredibly lazy buzzword. Do you have anything to back it up?

Besides, wine aside, I'm not in the habit of purposefully crippling my team Day 1 for towncred. I don't have a hard time getting townread on MS regardless of my alignment (save for a couple of scumgames I borked), so it wouldn't be giving me any particular advantage.

Fair enough on Firebringer.

Lazy? Nah, it's a possible explanation that justifies why we might have the same vote. Having the vote isn't what I care for: Why you have it, conviction behind it and situations when it occurs are more useful. This is why I think it's useless to go "Oh well, Gribs is voting for Mario... one of them is town".


Dwlee, have you ever caught scum as town, and if so how do you go about catching scum? Because I doubt it's via VCA.

I only have one completed town game on site and that was where I replaced in as a power role and the win was handed to me because the scum claimed something not in the matrix and the other one I had a tracker result of them killing the person. My games offsite are way too different to even compare them to this style of game. And I didn't say I'm using VCA to scum hunt, that was for reactions.
And it sees who is paying attention, mario. Tbh I don't know what I expected exactly because it is my first time trying to reaction fish like that but I didn't get anything from it other than you making it seem scummy as crap and that grib asked if it was still going to happen so I think that's a townie reaction from grib (mainly taking note of things like that and remembering them to scumhunt or whatever).

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Shiro for going first

What's wrong with going first?
VOTE: pistachi0n

... I'll be back tomorrow

Doesn't come back?

I've just skimmed through the whole thread since my last post..

I like MarioManiac4's case against Dwlee99 in post 322

Fire, let's be Painbringer. Double voting masons.

RC, I think I can read you well enough.

I would, but I kinda get the feeling your buddying me.
No way you already are town reading me.
Thats insane even for you.

No it's not. But OK, you'll see I can legit read you.

I think Titus was just messing around in 268, but I can understand why Firebringer might think otherwise and might think Titus is scum trying to get buddy with him.. What really bugs me is how Titus takes a defensive stance in 274.

Why?

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

K

Not sure if it's scummy to have 3 posts as an ISO.

[Davsto]

Not sure if it's scummy to have 3 posts as an ISO.

I mean, if you're potentially leaning towards 3 posts being scummy, why do you - rather oddly - ignore people with 1 post (pistach)? Seems a bit odd to focus on the former.

[Titus]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

This is a bit of a false dilemma. Keeping my eye on you.

How is this a false dilemma at all?

[Heat]

Just got back from class, I'll post my thoughts when I read through everything.

[Davsto]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

This is a bit of a false dilemma. Keeping my eye on you.

How is this a false dilemma at all?

Rather than exploring the options, he forces it into a choice between Mario and Dwlee, thus making justifying his vote on Dwlee a lot easier. It's creating the idea of it being a choice between Mario or Dwlee, when it's... really not.

[Titus]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

This is a bit of a false dilemma. Keeping my eye on you.

How is this a false dilemma at all?

Rather than exploring the options, he forces it into a choice between Mario and Dwlee, thus making justifying his vote on Dwlee a lot easier. It's creating the idea of it being a choice between Mario or Dwlee, when it's... really not.

He's not forcing anything though...

[Dwlee99]

Not sure if it's scummy to have 3 posts as an ISO.

I mean, if you're potentially leaning towards 3 posts being scummy, why do you - rather oddly - ignore people with 1 post (pistach)? Seems a bit odd to focus on the former.

Because he is voting me for crap reasons. He doesn't even say what looks good about mario's case.

[Titus]

Dweee join me. I has cookies.

[Davsto]

I think Dwlee99 is a better lynch than MarioManiac
VOTE: Dwlee99

This is a bit of a false dilemma. Keeping my eye on you.

How is this a false dilemma at all?

Rather than exploring the options, he forces it into a choice between Mario and Dwlee, thus making justifying his vote on Dwlee a lot easier. It's creating the idea of it being a choice between Mario or Dwlee, when it's... really not.

He's not forcing anything though...

He is though? To himself.

I know I'm bad at explaining, but I'd have thought you'd get the gist by now.

[Dwlee99]

It's a false dilemma because in his mind Zymf is making it so that either me or mario have to get lynched when there are more wagons than just me.
And I don't want to vote Davsto.

[Titus]

Nah he's just changing his mind.

[Titus]

No cookies for you.

[Dwlee99]

;v