NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Fro99er]

(expired on 2016-01-28 22:00:00)

(Sat Jan 28 @ 10:00:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 6.08

• (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  pignash
  —
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (2)
  pisskop
  — Drixx, Shiro
  (3)
  Shiro
  — pisskop, Firebringer, Espeonage
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  

(2)

[NOT VOTING]

— pignash, Elyse

With

7

alive

, it takes

4

votes

to lynch.

[Firebringer]

Shiro is at L-1 and I really not totally sold on this wagon I am on but I am kind of at that point I don't care too.

Apathy kills me in mafia games, I swear.
By all that happens Shiro claim of roleblock doesn't make sense.
I don't know.

[pisskop]

if there were 3 scum one of us would e dead by now

[Drixx]

if there were 3 scum one of us would e dead by now

Unless my action stopped said kill. Occam's razor makes you the proper kill today. Occam's razor is not infallible; obviously. But just the same ... it requires many more assumptions for any other lynch to make sense.

[Elyse]

pignash, why aren't you voting? What are you thinking?

[pisskop]

if there were 3 scum one of us would e dead by now

Unless my action stopped said kill. Occam's razor makes you the proper kill today. Occam's razor is not infallible; obviously. But just the same ... it requires many more assumptions for any other lynch to make sense.

If there were 3 scum and one of us is town cross voting scum would quickhammer.

what does that have to do with your nigh action?

You can say all you want that occams razor, but if it were just that simple we wouldnt need to have this.

3man scumteam doesnt work giventhe strength of the other scumteam, and shiro's play today is imo telling

walk with me and talk setup spec.

[pisskop]

the lack of a hammer s only further proof that its not existing. Its shiro's main line of defense

[Drixx]

I agree that two 3-man teams is unlikely. The Goon/Goon/Joat wouldn't balance with a Goon/Goon/unlimited RB.

The fact that there is so much confusion is easily an indicator that something isn't right.

[Shiro]

the lack of a hammer s only further proof that its not existing. Its shiro's main line of defense

That isn't my main line of defense, my line is that it makes no sense.

Pisskop, who is my buddy and why did we no kill?

[pisskop]

So you have no issues painting the whole lynch pool as my buddy but need to ask me who your buddy is? Its still completely posible you are an SK according to Frogs response

[pisskop]

why you no killed? I dont engage is such wifom usually but Ill take a few stabs at it.

To live another day
If 2groupscum to make it to lylo instead of dying before it. you gain a extra death this way.
To frame somebody as a roleblocker or to force a massclaim.

[pisskop]

Tell me more about why you targeted nos so much, and why you pushed him despite 2 nulls on him amd a third on another player. any cop should be questioming their results, not accusing people of being aescetic and then accusing 2 opposing scums of taking turns roleblocking you.

[pignash]

Watching pk and shiro and deciding Elyse.

[Shiro]

If 2groupscum to make it to lylo instead of dying before it. you gain a extra death this way.
To frame somebody as a roleblocker or to force a massclaim.

Today would have been mylo if that was the case. It makes no sense not to.
That would make sense if yiu ate assuming I am buddies with Drixx

Because I speculated I was rbed and gave it another shot. I was frustrated so I just assumed I was right. If I was scum wanting to bs I would have claimed a guilty on him.

My last check was on Espeonage if anyone cares. Still nothing. I went there because the joat flip made me kinda paranoid that this might make him confirmed or some shit and he might be opposing teams joat.

[Elyse]

We're getting nowhere. :/

[Firebringer]

Or we are getting everywhere?
It really can't be group scum at this point for me. I don't think they do 2 man teams for larges? At least that would be weird. It had to be 3 man team.

Or there was 4 mafia and a SK? Or is that to powerful for scum?

[Drixx]

Elyse ... ultimately you're going to have to decide. I think Pisskop is the best percentage play, but that doesn't mean it's the right one. I know it's crappy to put it on you but you're the conftown while the rest of us who are probtown are only that based upon other people's claims and setup spec. Fear is the mind killer. Nobody will blame you if it goes sideways. Be a good IC and be decisive. I'd rather lose proactively than win lazily.

[pignash]

Drixx, what were you sent before? Who did you use it on? I sent you the RB because you made reference to receiving something from Titus earlier in the game. What happened with that?

[Drixx]

Drixx, what were you sent before? Who did you use it on? I sent you the RB because you made reference to receiving something from Titus earlier in the game. What happened with that?

You mean the murderous donuts? That was actually me being put into a neighborhood with Grib, where we were able to talk any time we wanted until he got killed. I called it murderous donuts because Titus was using donuts as the code for it when she was talking to Grib in thread, and the first thing Grib said to me was that he kind of wanted to kill me. We got along better after that.

Going back and re-reading that neighborhood, especially knowing Grib's alignment, makes me realize that Firebringer was on our radar way back then ... and just happens to still be alive. I'm not sure that changes the logical thought process for today very far, but it did refresh my memory on that count.

[Elyse]

VOTE: pisskop

I feel like I could be missing something huge but oh well I think this is the best play for today.

[pisskop]

piggys. we need your vote to finish it

[pisskop]

im awful sad your going to kill me but at least you kniw what to do tomorrow

[Firebringer]

Pisskop is Town Jesus.

[Elyse]

If pisskop is town and the game doesn't end, Shiro is dead tomorrow.

[pignash]

Dammit. I don't know what to do. Closed setups are so murky and I definitely don't have setup spec in my arsenal yet. Both seem likely anti-town but I believed fa's claim and I don't buy shiros

Should I hammer Shiro or give intent so we can get a last reads list?