You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Elyse]

PTs!

[jasonT1981]

Dead topic http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7487615
Scum topic http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p7445616

[T S O]

This scum thread is really great.

[T S O]

Elyse played endgame kills well - I'm not sure what I'd have done if I came to LyLo.

[Elyse]

Kling, you are so fucking bitter lmfao. I would bus you 10 times out of 10 if the same situation arose. You were awful and the competing wagons were Spifflop, who was so town it hurt, and Alchemist, which was entirely town-led and netted us two mislynches and a vig shot on town. Get the fuck over it already.

I also lol'd when you said we were stupid for lynching IAI because he was the brains of the whole thing. First, I also thought TWIE was the cop and wanted to kill him. Second, IAI fucking claimed vig to draw out a CC. What were we supposed to do, vote for the actual town vig? Garmr owned up to his mistake. Learn from him. I've been scum with him twice before and one time he bussed me to oblivion because I was having a shitty game. Guess what? He went on to win. Sound familiar? He made the right move, and so did I.

My God. I mean I get that you're pissed off for being bussed but you're being flat out delusional. Please don't sign up for a game I'm in. I don't want to play with you again.

To the rest of you, good game. I had fun.

[Aneninen]

Klingonette.
I'm phrasing the situation from a different point of view. I know it's a shytty feeling when one gets caught too easily. But, Mafia is a team-game and sometimes you are worth more dead than alive. (If you're interested in, it was the same at Team Mafia. When it got clear that I'd never get a townread we started planning my lynch. Even if it looked as if a single player had been flailing, five players was working on that.)
Aaaaaaaaaand,

it's never over 'till it's over

. In this situation, you earned my townread on you and Elyse milked it seriously later. I bet she would have had harder times if I hadn't jumped of your wagon on Day1...

Also, Gwen and others. Sorry to say but I don't think I'd ever be able to find that clue about hiding. At that time I'd been very busy IRL and I wasn't able to find how important it was later. To tell the truth, at MyLo re-reading those posts of Elyse I felt something was wrong there but I couldn't put my finger on it.

[T S O]

I agree with what's being said. Klingon, attempting to bus Elyse to the Third Circle of Hell was completely excessive. The situation only warranted bussing to the First Circle of Hell, or possibly even the Second.

[TheWayItEnds]

To be fair to Garmr...

I disagreed with "TWIE gambits a lot" in the dead thread.

But "TWIE gives reads in absolutes a lot" is a pretty accurate statement.

[Garmr]

To be fair to Garmr...

I disagreed with "TWIE gambits a lot" in the dead thread.

But "TWIE gives reads in absolutes a lot" is a pretty accurate statement.

I never said twie gambits a lot????

[TheWayItEnds]

@EE, That push isn't ridiculous. It's what is known as a reaction test. :nod: basically, you're doing something that throws someone off their guard to get them to indirectly reveal information about themselves or others. Fake day vigs were common until it was abused and any player with my level of experience or older rolls their eyes at them.

Scum aren't going to dance and say I am scum.

@IAI, me as cop...really? Why?

Wasn't me, one of the others swore by it, u can ask him post game.

I even pointed out the "hard town" read each day by TWIE, first with MOHIS, then grapes, then EP,

but I was told that TWIE gambits all the time so I was overruled.

I disagreed with this post in the dead thread.

I dont think what you said is inaccurate.

[hiplop]

getting shot made me sad

[Garmr]

@EE, That push isn't ridiculous. It's what is known as a reaction test. :nod: basically, you're doing something that throws someone off their guard to get them to indirectly reveal information about themselves or others. Fake day vigs were common until it was abused and any player with my level of experience or older rolls their eyes at them.

Scum aren't going to dance and say I am scum.

@IAI, me as cop...really? Why?

Wasn't me, one of the others swore by it, u can ask him post game.

I even pointed out the "hard town" read each day by TWIE, first with MOHIS, then grapes, then EP,

but I was told that TWIE gambits all the time so I was overruled.

I disagreed with this post in the dead thread.

I dont think what you said is inaccurate.

Oh ok understood.

[Aneninen]

getting shot made me sad

Getting shot would have made me happy. ^_^

[Garmr]

getting shot made me sad

Getting shot would have made me happy. ^_^

Anen you sell yourself short you were town read for the majority of the game and you had some nice reads. If elyse didn't have such a strong start and mid game you might of won.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

EE is going to be a fucking nightmare postgame.

Why?

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On another note, I'm glad I drew not one, not two, but three jails. Gave town PRs room to work, so at least that part of my play was pro-town. Lol

[Alchemist21]

I remember EE pulling a Slayer's gambit without seeming to know there was a name for it made me think he was Town, and the only time I doubted that was when I thought he was scum with Jaquen.

[T S O]

Am I the only one who thinks Slayer's Gambit is a giant crock of shit?

[Spiffeh]

What even is that?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

There's a name for this stuff? Also what's the chainsaw gambit jaquen was talking about?

Also I loved playing with jaquen.

PEdit: idk what slayers gambit is but whatever I did worked, it caught Elyse

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Oh, lol:

When a vanilla townie intentionally acts scummy in an attempt to find scum eager to jump on to a bandwagon early in the game. Named after Disciple Slayer, a player who used this gambit in Mini 533. (Link)

This Gambit was used before Disciple Slayer by the legendary Internet Stranger, in early mafia games.

There is controversy that Disciple Slayer's actions were not intentionally scummy, but were, in fact, bad play.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Yeah I did pull that in a way, and Titus doubted me, but Elyse and Garmr fell for it, I just was stupid and didn't catch garment right away, lol

[T S O]

I still have no idea how you distinguish between scum and town, though. Nor, it appears, did Jaqen.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Am I the only one who thinks Slayer's Gambit is a giant crock of shit?

Also based on the wording in the last paragraph you aren't the only one who thinks it's just an excuse to act scummy, if that's what you meant, although I assure you my play was intentional.

PEdit: I moved on the theory that null alignment/town would jump on lynchbait or someone acting strange/out of place, and scum would jump on for town cred.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

*ebwop scum would jump on *them* for town cred

[Garmr]

There's a name for this stuff? Also what's the chainsaw gambit jaquen was talking about?

Also I loved playing with jaquen.

PEdit: idk what slayers gambit is but whatever I did worked, it caught Elyse

it didn't catch elyse through becuase she won the game.

Also a slayers gambit is when you intentionally play bad and scummy. It's a really bad gambit as town will jump on you as well. I honestly don't think that's what you were doing.