A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[SirCakez]

Huh I don't remember that but I'll take your word for it I guess.
And ya that didn't go so well q.q

Idk I need to reanalyze.

[beeboy]

I don't know about this game tbh we need ranger votes we are getting to a point where we force a town lynch otherwise.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.21:

Friendless Seniors:

SnarkySnowman, podoboq, Skybird, Ranger, Sakura Hana, True Ogre, tictac (7)

Mirhawk:

THE WRONG LYNCH, SirCakez, The Pied Piper, Cerberus v666 (4)

SirCakez:

Spiffeh, Tammy, Mirhawk, Friendless Seniors (4)

Ranger:

davesaz, beeboy, Amihan (3)

Skybird:

pistachi0n (1)

dramonic:

Axelrod (1)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

Not Voting:

None.

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

V/LA:

The Pied Piper until 4/3.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-06 21:00:00)

[Rob14]

davesaz, Skybird, and Axelrod have been prodded.

[Sakura Hana]

pdodge, sorry busy weekend for me, i'll be back tomorrow.

[Mirhawk]

SirCakez is definitely town.

What? Hell no.

He parked on the easiest wagon that required the least justification and never left.

Seriously, go read his ISO. Try to find justification for his vote. When I pressed him on it he offered up some gibberish reasons, then stopped responding to me.

There's lots going on in town. There's no way that he hasn't found anything stronger than that in all this time. It's not like he isn't here, he's had a hundred posts since then.

[SirCakez]

Easiest wagon is Seniors lol
I'm not even the first vote on your wagon. Why aren't you attacking TWL and PP for vote parking if that's your big concern?

[Mirhawk]

I have a lot of big concerns, don't try to make that out to be the only one.

Incidentally, TWL is also probably scum.

[SirCakez]

That's what your post revolved around so I assumed it was your big concert.

[SirCakez]

Concern*
Autocorrect wtf

[davesaz]

Of the 4 top I rank them Ranger, Cakez, FS, Mirhawk.

[Amihan]

SirCakez is definitely town.

What? Hell no.

He parked on the easiest wagon that required the least justification and never left.

Seriously, go read his ISO. Try to find justification for his vote. When I pressed him on it he offered up some gibberish reasons, then stopped responding to me.

There's lots going on in town. There's no way that he hasn't found anything stronger than that in all this time. It's not like he isn't here, he's had a hundred posts since then.

I am not seeing anything substantive in your ISO regarding your thought process on Cakez. If there's anything opportunistic it would be you on him. Earlier minor criticisms don't mesh with how strong your read seems to be now, and just looks manufactured in response to others like Spiffeh's higher certainty on him.

I don't have anything substantive to townread him, granted. But he was town enough and helpful enough in Newbie 1681 that I just don't want to lynch him over other options that yield more information, I think the case and jump in wagon size is by nature not to be trusted, and I think this lynch is a distraction from wagons like Ranger or Skybird or even your own.

I don't like how so many people said they'd take a look at Skybird because of the constant 3-man wagon, but then practically nobody did and that's why it died.

I don't like how people seem to think effort means towniness in terms of Ranger's catchup. It was very lacking in thought process and looked artificial such that the end reads even felt planned out. You even pointed this out yourself, so I don't know why you're choosing to go to Cakez instead and fighting me on Ranger, with only minor negatives on him in your ISO.

I just don't believe SirCakez is the best lynch.

[Amihan]

Of the 4 top I rank them Ranger, Cakez, FS, Mirhawk.

So vote Ranger.

[Amihan]

Same to Mirhawk too. I took a chance on you potentially being town and it feels like you're squandering it.

[Amihan]

Of the 4 top I rank them Ranger, Cakez, FS, Mirhawk.

So vote Ranger.

Sorry, I thought you had switched to SirCakez too. Disregard this then.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Ranger

[Axelrod]

Sry guys, I've been Magic pre-releasing all weekend and watching the final four. I'm catching up.

[Mirhawk]

@Ami
Screw you, seriously.

[Spiffeh]

Lol?

[Mirhawk]

I mean honestly.

I'm the one fighting you on Ranger? I brought up most of the initial points against her.

I'm distracting people from Skybird? I spent two days trying to keep that wagon from being pushed aside by Ranger.

If you have reservations about Cakez that's fine, but trying to guilt me into changing my vote is only going to piss me off.

[Amihan]

I'll look back at that later, but honestly? Whatever works is fine to me. The vote is bad and the wagon is bad.

I'm choosing to not try and read Spiffeh this day by the way. I have some reservations there but it wouldn't be productive to make anything out of at all.

[Axelrod]

I like Tammy's posting a lot, when Tammy is here.

[Axelrod]

The last two games I played with Ranger she was scum and did reads similarly, but from what people who were defending her in machina said, this is pretty much what she does as far as reads starting from rvs.

I can give the story behind this if it'd interest you. Short version: how I was raised playing off-site; we refer back to the RVS (which is most of D1) constantly. I wouldn't normally give analysis until D4 or so, but I still compile reads with reasons in my head.

I meant that you deliberately left Skybird out of the lynch pool to try and make people think he wasn't a viable lynch.

Well, she

isn't

a viable lynch.

I won't be able to make a kind of determination of her reads list until we get a flip or two.

This is a fair method of reading me.

VOTE: Friendless Seniors.
I know, Mirhawk wagon was bigger, but the two wagons are now tied, so it's close enough.

So, this vote kind of bugs me, even though I am agreeing with the result. Like, if these two are equally scummy in your eyes (these are your bottom tier guys), and one wagon is bigger than the other, why would you push the smaller one and make them tied?

[Axelrod]

Snarky literally chimes in the post directly after someone asks him to be vigged

He is clearly paying attention to this game but is refusing to post

Yes he has a reputation for being lynchbait but in my experience he has not been THIS useless Day 1

He needs to be vigged tonight

Him or Dramonic I would be in complete agreement with.

Speaking of which,

Unvote

since that's not doing anything.

[Axelrod]

I think tictac might be scum

Well, most likely, yes.

But being realistic. Do you think a wagon there could work?

I don't. Not today, especially not this close to deadline.

If you want scum lynched, {Friendless Seniors, Mirhawk} is really the only pool you've got.

Uhh. Again, really not a fan of the way you are narrowing these choices.