A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[THE WRONG WAGON]

(Interested)

I'll have more time tomorrow, maybe I'll actually do something.

[pistachi0n]

VOTE: tictac

I'm OK with this, but for the benefit of town, Cakez, you should make a real case.

In going through your ISO, you had tictac as a 5 on your scale from 1 to 7 with 7 being town. (post 1445) I don't see a case against tictac in your ISO. How about you making a case if you are OK with voting tictac.

Why don't you make your own cases? Who do you think is fishy and why?

[Rob14]

@mod I have been incredibly sick and it is getting worse not better so I can't keep up with this game
Replace me out

I hope you feel better! Please see a doctor if you haven't already.

[Rob14]

Jim replaces beeboy.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.2:

Skybird:

pistachi0n, Marquis (2)

dramonic:

davesaz, tictac (2)

tictac:

SirCakez, podoboq (2)

pistachi0n:

True Ogre (1)

SirCakez:

The Pied Piper (1)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

Not Voting:

Skybird, Friendless Seniors, Axelrod, Mirhawk, Sakura Hana, Cerberus v666, THE WRONG LYNCH, Jim

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-22 21:00:00)

[Rob14]

Axelrod has been prodded.

[davesaz]

the fuck happened to that quote.

You could try actually commenting on the game state.
I can go along with tictac being scum. It would help if you explain why you think this is the case.

[davesaz]

Dave, talk to me about why we need more dram votes please.

You guys... this isn't town. This is scum trying to be helpful.

I don't think so. I see her as town wanting to get a grip on whether I'm on to something solid in my dram push. Right now there isn't much behind my dram push, but I'm reasonably certain that Skybird's actions come from town.

[The Pied Piper]

I should've gone v/la on Friday; I haven't been feeling well and it's affecting my communication. I can make sentences today but I can't make sentences that mean what I want them to.

[True Ogre]

Can you please specify your Miller role. I have a result on you which says you're not a miller.

I'm interested in this, and curious why you'd tell her that you have a contradictory result before hearing what her response is.

She (and Marquis actually) had been ignoring what I've been saying and have been delaying their responses. In the meantime the thread is getting muddy with everyone else going in their different directions, when this is

important

.

I get the feeling pistach is trying to come up with something credible based on the limited information provided. So there'll be no more until I get elaboration on this "other role" - but votes need to pile on here.

This is today's lynch and every assumption I make from hereonin assumes that pistachi0n flips scum this game.

[The Pied Piper]

i owe you a response when i can words again but in the meantime I am okay with

VOTE: Pistachi0n L-7

[Mirhawk]

I should have known, I never do anything useful on the weekends.

I was scumreading Pistachion already anyways.

Vote: Pistachion

I'm still scumreading Cakes and TWL.
The short version is that I think both of them have been tying to look involved rather then hunting scum.
There's more to it then that, especially in Cakez's case. But that's the gist of what I'm thinking.

[tictac]

VOTE: pist
Back to this. I'll add claiming additional PR instead of claiming flavour to the charges. How the heck is that preferable?

Other news:
- In Cheetory mafia Amihan faked a guilty for reactions (while avoiding being explicit about it). She did this as scum. I wonder if the alt-switch was designed to direct our meta-reading to Marquis games and away from Cheetory :/ I've been writing her off as town from the gambit and I need to stop doing that.
- I'm unconfortable with how podo seems to be following Cakez around (latest instance her vote on me). The arc of 1.scumread Ranger-slot 2. Townread her from naked reads seems scummy to me. Like he first wanted to scumread a player who is known for her reads and then wanted to townread her once he found out she was off-base. Podo might feel more comfortable following a scummy path if he's sheeping a townie. I'm still witholding judgement on Cakez since I tunneled him day 1 last game and the things I find scummy here are the things I found scummy there.
- Cakez is right about me being less active here than I was in the mini. He was less active there and town. I don't see how he thinks it's AI. Nevertheless, criticism received. I will endeavor to put more effort in.

[SirCakez]

I tend to be more active in larges yes. I find it easier to analyze more people for some reason.
The thing that still bugs me about Pist is the miller claim. Otherwise I'd prob be scumreading them.

[Skybird]

Welcome Marquis!

Pistach, I get better as the game goes on.

What's bothering me is why you feel the need to talk about this at all.

You brought it up as a scum point against me. I'm responding with the truth.

After looking at last night's actions, how has that changed your reads?

[Skybird]

Cakez, why do you think Pist's miller claim is more town based?

I too would like to get this sorted before the game goes much further.
VOTE: Pistachion

[Skybird]

VOTE: tictac

I'm OK with this, but for the benefit of town, Cakez, you should make a real case.

In going through your ISO, you had tictac as a 5 on your scale from 1 to 7 with 7 being town. (post 1445) I don't see a case against tictac in your ISO. How about you making a case if you are OK with voting tictac.

Why don't you make your own cases? Who do you think is fishy and why?

I'm not the one saying tictac is scummy. Podo looks fishy here because he rated tictac pretty high on his town scale yesterday. Now he is calling tictac scum and asking other people to make a case. I've read through tictac's ISO. There's not a lot there one way or the other IMO. I also don't think that is unusual on day 1 in a large. But we now have flips to work with and it's time to get going. I want to see how both tictac and podo progress.

[podoboq]

VOTE: tictac

I'm OK with this, but for the benefit of town, Cakez, you should make a real case.

In going through your ISO, you had tictac as a 5 on your scale from 1 to 7 with 7 being town. (post 1445) I don't see a case against tictac in your ISO. How about you making a case if you are OK with voting tictac.

Why don't you make your own cases? Who do you think is fishy and why?

I'm not the one saying tictac is scummy. Podo looks fishy here because he rated tictac pretty high on his town scale yesterday. Now he is calling tictac scum and asking other people to make a case. I've read through tictac's ISO. There's not a lot there one way or the other IMO. I also don't think that is unusual on day 1 in a large. But we now have flips to work with and it's time to get going. I want to see how both tictac and podo progress.

The middle of my scale was a four, which is null. Tictac was at five, a slight town read. With the flips we had, that has dropped.

Cakez immediately pushed tictac coming into the day, and as a result, I think he has a responsibility to build a case.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Pistachion
Also i'll be around now, so feel free to ask me anything.

[Axelrod]

I'm super busy right now, but I intend to put some time into this game this afternoon and tomorrow.

Also, I totally informed Rob. I was going to be away so I don't know why I'm even being prodded.

[davesaz]

VOTE: Pistachi0n

[Rob14]

Also, I totally informed Rob. I was going to be away so I don't know why I'm even being prodded.

This was my bad. I misread the PM Axel sent me, but he did notify me. Prod retracted.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.3:

pistachi0n:

True Ogre, The Pied Piper, Mirhawk, tictac, Skybird, Sakura Hana, davesaz (7)

Skybird:

pistachi0n, Marquis (2)

tictac:

SirCakez, podoboq (2)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

Not Voting:

Friendless Seniors, Axelrod, Cerberus v666, THE WRONG LYNCH, Jim

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-22 21:00:00)

[Friendless Seniors]

EP is here and reading.

[Friendless Seniors]

piper, I gotta question for you involving what you say and the vote you place in 2399.
You think that there's scum in Mirhawk and us.
You think that Mirhawk and Cakez looked bad.
Common denominator is mirhawk- why vote cakez?

Nacho looks town but I really am having a hard time shaking plot-scum here.

I don't really pay attention to which head posts which but I think we're on the same page.

shrug i gotta go

-EP