↑ True Ogre wrote:
Axel I notice your wagon analysis is mostly composed of events that have happened and a conclusion. There is very little of your reasoning for having overall feelings that votes could be bus votes given what you've learned about the players in the came over the last month.
You say my vote is a "possible" bus vote, but overall do you actually think I'm scum? What's your assessment of my slot and why?
My overall view is that I think you're probably town, with a paranoid side of "there could be some kind of elaborate gambit going on here..." But probably Town. I think your claim is largely believable (with two questions see below). The analysis is what it is, and the conclusions are obviously from my personal perspective, but I welcome people to disagree with me about it. I'm happy to engage, it just hasn't happened very much so far. You are also just wrong to say my reasoning isn't including what I already know/believe about the players.
Regarding your full-steam-ahead cases too. This happened with you with your Seniors push as well where I think there were little indications that you were tending a certain direction, have looked around at what the group-feel was, and then have come in with a big case-post which I struggle to believe that you believe yourself.
A readslist from you with overall reasons would be great even if you feel like your reads are obvious.
It's kind of annoying when you take the time to do an in-depth re-read of someone, really try and formulate an opinion, explain your reasoning, and then get completely dismissed by people saying you're trying too hard and "over-justifying" and also you're just following along with the "group-think". At the very least give me some credit for forming my own opinions. And I'm pretty sure neither FS or Skybird were consensus lynches at the times when I voted for them. FS wasn't even lynched at all, and I didn't vote Ranger. There have been other people who have gotten votes I haven't voted for, and people I've voted who have gone nowhere. So the group-think allegation is just completely incorrect.
Clearly my style is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way in this game, I realize this. It's not the first time. Here's a sad but true war story. In 11+ years playing this game, over 5 different mafia sites and I can't count how many games, I have been mislynched exactly 1 time. Once. And that was right here on Mafiascum the very last time (I think) I was Town. Because a lot of people who had never played with me before were just super-suspicious of the way I sounded. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that, when I started, you could play whole games in under 1000 posts. Large games. In a lot of ways it was a lot easier. Now you have 2500+ post Day 1's. If I played more it might be different, but I'm probably too old a dog to learn you kids new tricks.
Also, since you asked so nicely, this is roughly where I am:
Mod-Confirmed Town: pistachion
Almost certain Town: Marquis, davesaz (based on result), Malakittens (based on result), podoboq (based on strong read)
Leaning Town: True Ogre, Mirhawk
Undecided: Pied Piper, Friendless Seniors, itlepip, Cereberus
Scummiest: Dramonic, SirCakez, TicTac (now replacement), Dwlee99
Undecided represents FS actually moving up from where I had him early on, itlepip is down from where I had Beeboy. Pied Piper is the one I feel most in need of re-reading, but I haven't found the time or energy to just do it yet. In scummiest, I've said everything I have to say about Draminoc. Pretty sure I've made my position on Cakez clear too. TicTac is also in need of a re-read, but I know there were several things I didn't like. Dwlee is just bugging me.
First Question to you: Given your claim, what "role-based" reasons are making you think PP is Town? You didn't ever target him, and I don't believe he's claimed anything.
↑ True Ogre wrote:Okay. Well this is going to be fun because I'm late for work again so I imagine there's going to be a nice rush of activity. But it was you I was waiting on to say go ahead itle since I assumed you had some part in the results.
I'm Willy Wonka, flavour cop. (Slightly amused at this role given my alt.)
No result N1 investigating pistach, and no result again N2 investigating Axel.
I thought it extremely unlikely that I'd be interfered with N1 so I assumed pistach was lying.
*sigh* have fun.
Second question: Did you by any chance inquire of the Mod. for any clarification on what would cause "no result". i.e. is this what the mod. would tell you if you were role-blocked (instead of just saying, for example, "you have been role-blocked.")
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