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[lane0168]

Am I in line?

[Xkfyu]

Lol you may have just jumped to the front of the line with that post.

I liked it a lot, though.

[lane0168]

But for real. I'm satisfied with xk's explanations. Wasn't sure about what the hell he's was doing but it makes some sense I think. Odd, but not scum.

Sorens posts are whatever.

Tth looks town

[TellTaleHeart]

Your reasons for javajoe is evident in clumsy's play too. Would you agree?

Not really. For him, I'm not

entirely

convinced his commentary on Kuroi and lane were genuine (Post 77 and Post 92). The earlier post gave an explanation for why he didn't have an opinion (difficult to parse) and then the later one essentially regurgitated what I said (scum theater).

I'm still unsure in Clumsy's case, but the nature of my concerns there are different than for Joe.

[TellTaleHeart]

If anyone would like to pitch me their Kuroi town reads, that might be helpful.
(I already read Xkfyu's read. I don't think "not wanting to draw attention to himself" is a good towntell for anyone past the beginner level or anyone with more self-awareness than an amoeba. I think Kuroi is probably a little more savvy than that.)

[Clumsy]

If you had to choose one of them to be scum, which one would it be?

I'd choose Lane over Kuroi here. Lane's posts seem less genuine to me.

[Clumsy]

Lilith is a straight up gut read.

Snarky only made 3 posts when he came into the thread, but he didn't vote anyone, even though he was the only person without a vote in place. That doesn't sound like "scum trying to stay under the radar "to me.

And I think the Lane vs Kuroi thing is TvT because early D1 arguments like that usually are, since scum don't usually want to bring undue attention on themselves. Especially not so early.

1. Fair, I suppose.
B. What do you think scum would do here?
Thirdly: Meh, I don't think I buy into it completely. As soon as something becomes an obv town tell, scum will start to do it to be obv town. Such black and white views can be dangerous. But if that's your thought process, that's your thought process.

[Xkfyu]

B. What do you think scum would do here?

Cast a vote on someone.

Thirdly: Meh, I don't think I buy into it completely. As soon as something becomes an obv town tell, scum will start to do it to be obv town. Such black and white views can be dangerous. But if that's your thought process, that's your thought process.

You say that as if I have cleared them as town in my mind, and that's not what has happened. If I see something from either of them down the road that makes me think they are scum, then I'm certainly not going to let this early town read get in the way of it. For now though, I see no reason why they aren't town for it.

[KuroiXHF]

OK, I'm here. Catch up incoming.

[Clumsy]

Clumsy goes back into the game without respond to my vote on him and makes the same kind of post.
136 and 137 are just questions and doesn't tell me much about how he thinks about the game. He did vote for Xkfyu but that doesn't change my thoughts on clumsy. I'm sticking with my vote.

If there's one thing I've learned from all of my games of Mafia on this site, it's one thing.

I suck at Day 1.

I'm trying to get a hold on the game and the people here, it seems like a lot of you know of each other at the least. If you want my thoughts, I like TTH for town, I like Lane and Xkfyu for scum. I don't really know what to do with Snowman. Have yet to go reading through games. Not really liking Joe's posts so far. Kuroi's early game was... interesting, but I think I'm leaning towards either scum theater or town? Mark me down as unsure. Whereas, I like Lane for scum either for scum theater or just solo. Pretty much everyone else is middle ground.

Also:

136 and 137 are just questions and doesn't tell me much about how he thinks about the game.

SnarkySnowman thoughts on kuroi vs lane?

Elaborate please

Why?

I'm relatively confident in Lane being scum. (Considering it's still very early on day one.) I'll do some more reads tonight.

Hope to see those reads soon.

UNVOTE: Soren

VOTE: lane0168

Sheeping Kuroi.

You seem very unmotivated in this game, why?
What about kuroi do you agree with?

Most of your posts are questions without much telling about you either. You get into it more later with posts, but that was very recent. I think your reasons for scumreading me are silly. Where are your thoughts on the rest of the game? Anything about Kuroi or Lane? There's been no followup there after your questions, and you seem fixated on me (and to a lesser extent, Xkfyu). Why are you shying away from the elephants?

[Xkfyu]

Lilith is a straight up gut read.

Snarky only made 3 posts when he came into the thread, but he didn't vote anyone, even though he was the only person without a vote in place. That doesn't sound like "scum trying to stay under the radar "to me.

And I think the Lane vs Kuroi thing is TvT because early D1 arguments like that usually are, since scum don't usually want to bring undue attention on themselves. Especially not so early.

1. Fair, I suppose.
B. What do you think scum would do here?
Thirdly: Meh, I don't think I buy into it completely. As soon as something becomes an obv town tell, scum will start to do it to be obv town. Such black and white views can be dangerous.

But if that's your thought process, that's your thought process.

The bold part sounds like you think my thought process is genuine. But, why would you say something like this to someone you were legitimately scum reading?

[Clumsy]

B. What do you think scum would do here?

Cast a vote on someone.

Thirdly: Meh, I don't think I buy into it completely. As soon as something becomes an obv town tell, scum will start to do it to be obv town. Such black and white views can be dangerous. But if that's your thought process, that's your thought process.

You say that as if I have cleared them as town in my mind, and that's not what has happened. If I see something from either of them down the road that makes me think they are scum, then I'm certainly not going to let this early town read get in the way of it. For now though, I see no reason why they aren't town for it.

Oh no, I don't think you've completely cleared them. Maybe shouldn't have used obv town, just town. Meh. Basically, I'm saying I'm disagreeing with you, but I see your side.

UNVOTE: Xkfyu
VOTE: Lillith

Where are you at? Your vote is still from RVS, are you content with it there or what?

[Clumsy]

Lilith is a straight up gut read.

Snarky only made 3 posts when he came into the thread, but he didn't vote anyone, even though he was the only person without a vote in place. That doesn't sound like "scum trying to stay under the radar "to me.

And I think the Lane vs Kuroi thing is TvT because early D1 arguments like that usually are, since scum don't usually want to bring undue attention on themselves. Especially not so early.

1. Fair, I suppose.
B. What do you think scum would do here?
Thirdly: Meh, I don't think I buy into it completely. As soon as something becomes an obv town tell, scum will start to do it to be obv town. Such black and white views can be dangerous.

But if that's your thought process, that's your thought process.

The bold part sounds like you think my thought process is genuine. But, why would you say something like this to someone you were legitimately scum reading?

Because I'm more or less satisfied with your response. I'm still looking your way, but I'm somewhat... appeased? Ugh, I'm having trouble articulating today. Your reasoning makes enough sense for now.

[TellTaleHeart]

Oh no, I don't think you've completely cleared them. Maybe shouldn't have used obv town, just town. Meh. Basically, I'm saying I'm disagreeing with you, but I see your side.

UNVOTE: Xkfyu
VOTE: Lillith

Where are you at? Your vote is still from RVS, are you content with it there or what?

What makes you think Lilith is a good vote?

[Clumsy]

Vote still from RVS, no big input yet. Less "this is scum", more "get in here and contribute".

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.4

Javajoe24 (3) - TellTaleHeart, Xkfyu, lane0168
Xkfyu (2) - lilith2013, SnarkySnowman
lane0168 (1) - KuroiXHF
TellTaleHeart (1) - Javajoe24
Clumsy (1) - Soren
lilith2013 (1) - Clumsy

Not voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-05-20 06:55:00) remain until day end

[KuroiXHF]

I'm the one who steps from the shadows,
all trenchcoat and cigarette and arrogance,
ready to deal with the madness.

VOTE: lane

I feel like this is a lot more than just song lyrics.

Because you are a supervillan?

Gut feeling of Javajoe asking a lot of invasive questions.

Two soft flavor claims already?

~puts out cigarette~
Yeah. What's the fun in being your favorite character if you can't roleplay a little bit?

I'll post my read list in a bit.
Is there a reason you felt the need to comment on it?

Gut feeling of TelltaleHeart as town.

... And?

VOTE: snarkysnowman

Terrible voting. Voting someone who's basically AFK?

UNVOTE: Soren

VOTE: lane0168

Sheeping Kuroi.

Yeah, when I said I don't like sheeping, that's even when you're following me. Have independent thought and make your own minds. You don't know I'm town.

I don't like all the flip floppiness you have been doing xk..... You have posted little to no reasoning to any of your votes, but continue to throw them out there seemingly at random

You're not wrong.

Fuck it, I'll out the secret scumread.

VOTE: Javajoe

Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

Because I think you have flawed methods and I really don't see this discussion going anywhere that doesn't end up with you being butthurt and me feeling like I'm wasting my time.

Hello townie points, how are you?

OK fine then. I think your approach sucks too.

Lilith you want to be next? Forget it.

Everyone

get in a single file line so I can tell you I think you're awful.

*in line*

If anyone would like to pitch me their Kuroi town reads, that might be helpful.
(I already read Xkfyu's read. I don't think "not wanting to draw attention to himself" is a good towntell for anyone past the beginner level or anyone with more self-awareness than an amoeba. I think Kuroi is probably a little more savvy than that.)

I know I'm townie because I have a PM about that from the mod. I don't know about World 2, though. I'll let you know when that happens. As for me, I don't care about the amount of attention I have on me. I'll call anyone out if they're doing anything that's not pro-town, even if I know them to be town. It's not enough to know you're town, I have to know who scum is.

[KuroiXHF]

Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Lilith, Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe
Lean Scum: Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman
Strong Scum: Lane

[Xkfyu]

You completely caught up now?

[KuroiXHF]

More or less, yeah.

[Xkfyu]

Did you miss the part where I explained why I sheeped you?

[lane0168]

You're fucking blind kuroi. How do you put snarky in your scum lean pile, but call my vote on him terrible when he popped in to saying something pointless and "tvt"?

[lane0168]

Of course he didnt. He doesn't pay attention to anything else once he sees the word sheep apparently. Doesn't read in context, and doesn't notice explanations

[TellTaleHeart]

Gut feeling of Javajoe asking a lot of invasive questions.

How did Joe end up in the nullls?

[Xkfyu]

Kuroi, your name wouldn't happen to be Jimmy by any chance would it?