Micro 609: DC Dual Universes uPick - Game over!

[Javajoe24]

Sorry guys, somewhat forgot about this game. Will catch up later tonight.

[KuroiXHF]

Coasting. Only speaking if being pushed to do so. Being more reactive than pro-active. Not scum hunting.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.5 (unchanged)

Javajoe24 (3) - TellTaleHeart, Xkfyu, lane0168
Xkfyu (2) - lilith2013, SnarkySnowman
lane0168 (1) - KuroiXHF
TellTaleHeart (1) - Javajoe24
Clumsy (1) - Soren
lilith2013 (1) - Clumsy

Not voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-05-20 06:55:00) remain until day end

[TellTaleHeart]

I think about a third of the posts in this thread have been promises to catch up.

[Clumsy]

Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Lilith, Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe
Lean Scum: Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman
Strong Scum: Lane

So what do you see in snarky's posts here? Describe scum snarky, or town snarky

OK. I've found that when he's less active, he's more likely to be town. The more he coasts, the more likely he is to be town.

So what do you see in snarky's posts here? Describe scum snarky, or town snarky

OK. I've found that when he's less active, he's more likely to be town. The more he coasts, the more likely he is to be town.

Describe what snarky is doing here that makes you think he is scum... Or what he's doing that makes him not town. That shouldn't be too much to ask. I can do the rest myself.

Coasting. Only speaking if being pushed to do so. Being more reactive than pro-active. Not scum hunting.

Am I missing something/misunderstanding something, because this seems contradictory. You say he's coasting, but the more he coasts, the more likely he is to be town... so you're scumreading him?

[lilith2013]

Finally at a computer. Rereading, reads incoming.

(TTH you may retract your "no you don't suck" yet. May I remind you of Pokemon episode 3-4 where I literally just sat there scumreading everyone.)

[KuroiXHF]

Clumsy, to clarify, I find that the most Snarky acts scum, the more likely he is to be town. I'm very confident of this despite the limited exposure I have to him.

[lilith2013]

Very confused.

Lane asked what makes Snarky scum and you gave him the list of things and now you're saying that makes him town even though he was a scumlean in your readslist?

[KuroiXHF]

Well the only thing I haven't explained was that I naturally suspect Snarky. I actually didn't mean to put him there.

I probably put him there to remind myself that I don't trust him.

[lilith2013]

So... are you scumreading him or townreading him???

It sounds like you think/know he is town and yet you were trying to push a scumread on him until lane called you out on it.

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Here where's I am.

lane
TTH
Xkfyu/Soren/Snarky
Kuroi/Javajoe/Clumsy

lane's frustration and reaction to kuroi at the beginning of the game scream town to me. I also really like his questions to Xk and Joe.
TTH also seems tonally town here, there's a marked difference between the last game I saw her in where she was scum and kind of closed herself off. I feel like she's working on interacting with people here. (However.. 1) she was in a hydra and there might have been extenuating circumstances for how she posted in our previous game, and 2) I can't decide whether I think her outing that "secret scumread" on Joe is more likely to come from scum or town. But townlean for now.)
Kuroi I was still a bit unsure about regarding the lane vs. kuroi fight but now his recent posts about Snarky being scum vs. town have me moving him slightly down.
Javajoe, for his weird lurking/not sharing reads thing going on, putting out a scumread on Xk but not voting, seems like he's not really interacting or engaging.
I also had Clumsy in my null pile but I'm moving him down too because I think his "pressure vote" on me was dumb and useless and just didn't move the gamestate anywhere.

[KuroiXHF]

To answer your question - both and neither. I don't do well with people who are always scummy as fuck but turn up town. I don't do well with people who throw me off like this.

[lilith2013]

Are you going to attempt to sort him or???

Why is Javajoe null for you?

[KuroiXHF]

I'm waiting for Snarky to post more. As far as Javajoe, I've already explained him. He's as scummy in my eyes as he is townie. It cancels out to a null.

[lilith2013]

More specifically.. what about him as seemed towny to you?

[KuroiXHF]

I can do an entire read out of Javajoe if you'd like, but work's about to end and my supervisor is in the area so it'll have to be tomorrow.

[lilith2013]

Just like one or two specific things that he's said. He has like 9 posts anyway.

[lilith2013]

I just am like not seeing anything.

[KuroiXHF]

I don't like all the flip floppiness you have been doing xk..... You have posted little to no reasoning to any of your votes, but continue to throw them out there seemingly at random

I could care less about your strikes lane. If you think in scummy then do like TTH did and vote me. Right now my scummiest read is XK for reasons listed in my last post.

I like these posts. I like how critical he is on xkfryu and lane.

[lilith2013]

Ew. What?

[SnarkySnowman]

I don't think javajoe is particularly scummy. Kuroi seems like he was trying to push a silly scumread on me.

[Javajoe24]

Yeah, you are confusing lack of posts/effort for scumminess, which is not necessarily true. I think Lilith is town, and right now I am going to

VOTE: xk

I don't like his posts thus far. Lane came across scummy to me, but not enough to vote him. My play style I am generally more cautious with my votes and don't throw them around. Only exception being RVS.

[Xkfyu]

Sorry. Busy with exams, I'll post my readslist later.

You gotta stop having exams during our games. It makes me think you're lurking.

I have a break for a few days before they start up again so I'll do posty things when I get home.

Can you explain more on how your read on Snarky changed?

To be honest, I don't really like using meta. I think it's an unreliable scum hunting tool, especially for those who are aware of their meta.

That being said, I did read what I think Kuroi was talking about, and it's more of a tonal thing for me than anything to do with activity levels, as Kuroi suggests.

[Xkfyu]

I also had Clumsy in my null pile but I'm moving him down too because I think his "pressure vote" on me was dumb and useless and just didn't move the gamestate anywhere.

Dumb and useless? Yeah, I'll give you that. But does dumb and useless imply scum?

[Xkfyu]

Yeah, you are confusing lack of posts/effort for scumminess, which is not necessarily true. I think Lilith is town, and right now I am going to

VOTE: xk

I don't like his posts thus far. Lane came across scummy to me, but not enough to vote him. My play style I am generally more cautious with my votes and don't throw them around. Only exception being RVS.

Which posts didn't you like, and why?

[lilith2013]

Meh I see your point. I just.. don't like that it doesn't feel like he's actually trying to scumhunt. Did he really have no better options than to pressure vote me on page 8? It'd be different if he had said "I don't like this post by Lilith, this is a combined pressure + explain yourself vote" but he basically said he had no reason to vote me other than that I'd been inactive. Which is completely NAI, you saw the math game.

I asked whether Clumsy does that a lot as town and Kuroi said yes, though. But I don't really trust Kuroi here.

Care to weigh in on the Kuroi Snarky-scumread-townread issue above?