A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Mirhawk]

Yeah I'm down with this.

Screw SK's they don't deserve to win.

[dramonic]

I'd like to point out that since everyone seems to believe either me or you is scum, from their perspective both town and scum think it's a good plan.
YOU HAVE NO REASON TO RESIST PEOPLE *_*

On that note, I'll claim not shooter, although that's obvious since Snarky was shot N1

[dramonic]

Actually do we have a reason to believe the shooter didn't target spiffeh? <<

[Mirhawk]

Yes, because that means scum shot snarky, and while hilarious that would be unlikely.

[Mirhawk]

I think it's Cerb personally.

[Mirhawk]

Cakez fits too, but I really don't want that to be the case because then I might have to take back some of the things I said about Pipers crumb finding skills.

[Mirhawk]

Though earlier I thought it was you because you refused to claim.

[dramonic]

If it were me Axel woulda Died N1. Him or Podo.

[Rob14]

@Rob13: What can you tell us about how Skybirds Kingmaker ability functioned? She selected someone, and that individual presented us with the only option to lynch? Were there any restrictions on who she could target? What can you tell us about Dwlee's beloved prince modifier? The wiki says princess skips the next day phase. How did Dwlee's role function? Was the NEXT phase skipped, or was the next NIGHT skipped every time? Did it only trigger off lynches, or did it trigger off kills as well?

I can tell you that a Kingmaker selects a single player and that person controls which player dies during the following day phase. I can't answer anything else in this post; these details would be contained in the players' role PMs.

[Cerberus v666]

@Rob13: What can you tell us about how Skybirds Kingmaker ability functioned? She selected someone, and that individual presented us with the only option to lynch? Were there any restrictions on who she could target? What can you tell us about Dwlee's beloved prince modifier? The wiki says princess skips the next day phase. How did Dwlee's role function? Was the NEXT phase skipped, or was the next NIGHT skipped every time? Did it only trigger off lynches, or did it trigger off kills as well?

I can tell you that a Kingmaker selects a single player and that person controls which player dies during the following day phase. I can't answer anything else in this post; these details would be contained in the players' role PMs.

....

Seriously? You can't tell us how a flipped role functioned?

...I care even less about this game now. I didn't know that was possible.

[Cerberus v666]

Okay, that's a lie, I don't not care, but that's extremely annoying. What's the point of flips if we still have to guess about what it actually means??

[dramonic]

That's why I do rolecards~

[SirCakez]

Please provide a short dissertation on your theory there.

Her votes have been opportunistic but more importantly she's done a lot of the "lol I'm so bad at this game" and it doesn't sit well with me.

Okay thanks.

Can you please specify your Miller role. I have a result on you which says you're not a miller.

p-edit: Are you saying that you don't have a result on pistach for n1?

N1- No Result
N2- No Result
N3- Mir is urinetown
N4- Beloved Prince

The double no results are the biggest problem I have with this claim. I don't see scum blocking TO two night in a row over something minor like a flavor cop. It doesn't add up.

I'm guessing axel,

Is that just a guess? Have you checked your role PM to see if the targets were divulged? Sorry I'm prying. I'm just trying to figure out what we know and what we don't.

Give me 10 minutes and I'll be back in the office and can check my pm's.

unvote podo

Dram let's go with tpp and vig podo if tpp is town.

VOTE: tpp

ewwwww

@Shotty: Do you remember why you decided to investigate Mirhawk?

Ya I was just looking at my notes here from when I first read the game. He looked to be the wagon that would take off the next do so I wanted to be ready to call bs on a fake claim(to the degree I could). Infact I'm going to go back to my original read through list for scum, I'm thinking dram got in my head(he is good at that)
Scum are Mirhawk and Dram. I actually had TPP and Podo on my town reads, I've been brainwashed by the need to sheep

VOTE: dram

let's vig mir regardless.

Why do you vote hop so much O.o

Flubber has been doing next to nothing all game
Podo has bad associations with flipped scum
Dram is still pushing TPP post-Dwlee flip for next to no reason

I get these.

I kinda have the impression that Flubber is still playing his cards super close to his chest which makes me feel like he has a plan or agenda of some sort. I'm not saying necessarily a scum one, just I get the feeling like he's up to something.

Speaking of which,

@Flubber
Seriously man do you guys talk in the neighborhood or not. Does it even exist.

I just want Flubber to do something....anything

[SirCakez]

First and foremost: If Dram flips scum, and the game doesn't immediately end, we either have five scum or a serial killer. Which of the two is more likely?

I don't think there's any way to tell. At least not right away.

I'm not asking anyone to claim here, but did I miss a claimed vig or are we just assuming? Because in that case a SK may not be unlikely, again do not claim if you are the vig and already have.

I'm not asking anyone to claim here, but did I miss a claimed vig or are we just assuming? Because in that case a SK may not be unlikely, again do not claim if you are the vig and already have.

I think this is pretty much 100% guesswork from everyone involved.

I don't see a SK only killing every other night and making either of those shots fyi.

Also, Itlepip: you do realize your entire roles value has been compromised, yes? By outing that you're a bodyguard, scum will simply block you(which is something we have evidence of them doing) and just kill whoever they want? You need to remove the assumption that you'll die before the end game from your equations.

This is good. This means we'll be able to test Shotty's claim fairly easily, if he's legit.

[SirCakez]

Cakez fits too, but I really don't want that to be the case because then I might have to take back some of the things I said about Pipers crumb finding skills.

The Kingmaker description Rob gave seems pretty complete, not sure why that's a problem.

[dramonic]

I have no idea what that comment and quote have to do with one another.

And AFAIK shotty is hopping around cuz I get in his head.

[SirCakez]

They don't have anything to do with each other. The facepalm was at the quote and the comment was unrelated.

[Marquis]

I don't know what's been going on the past few days, but I'll catch up when I return.

[Flubbernugget]

Flubber has been doing next to nothing all game
Podo has bad associations with flipped scum
Dram is still pushing TPP post-Dwlee flip for next to no reason

I get these.

I kinda have the impression that Flubber is still playing his cards super close to his chest which makes me feel like he has a plan or agenda of some sort. I'm not saying necessarily a scum one, just I get the feeling like he's up to something.

Speaking of which,

@Flubber
Seriously man do you guys talk in the neighborhood or not. Does it even exist.

I haven't said anything in the neighborhood. They're not really my thing

[Flubbernugget]

Back to the wall, of the two I would probably pick Podo.

I guess I have lightish townreads on both of them so eh, though in terms of recent events I feel that Dram looks better then Podo. His assertion that Dwlee could have been bussing is fairly reasonable, while Podo's defense of himself rubs me the wrong way. I dunno it feels.. desperate? I'm not sure why I don't like it, but It doesn't feel natural.

It's not the self defense, it's the solicitation of points for him to argue at

[podoboq]

It's not the self defense, it's the solicitation of points for him to argue at

The alternative is letting people vote me without any reason other than "Eh, what else are we gonna do?"

[Flubbernugget]

VOTE: podo l2

[pistachi0n]

I think we have an SK now

pretty sure a town vig would have claimed.

[dramonic]

Unless its mala cuz she hasnt posted recently.

[Cerberus v666]

Mechanical difference between vig who doesn't claim until the time when the plan calls for them to get lynched, an SK, and a vig who claims right now instead of at the appropriate time: The vig who claims right now doesn't have a chance of getting night killed.

My first thought about the matter.