Micro 609: DC Dual Universes uPick - Game over!

[Clumsy]

SnarkySnowman is lying. I'm gladiator.

I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?

Was this a badly placed joke? Or what's going on here?

(also I love the "Shazam!" flavor of gladiate here.)

[SnarkySnowman]

That post was the last push that made me think Kuroi is definitely scum here, so Billy Batson sprang into action

[KuroiXHF]

I've already stated my case on you and I find your activity only in the case of defense scummy.

[SnarkySnowman]

Compare that to literally every other game I've played though, and also note my activity in Earth 1. How is my activity E2 different in a scummy way? Do you think I rolled scum in both worlds? Why is my case on you wrong?

[KuroiXHF]

I'll actually ask you to look at what you just said. You also barely spoke in other games too, although I'd warn you that being scummy in every other game is not a good defense in being scummy this game.

[MagnaofIllusion]

On phone with sad connection.

Snarky's handling of gladiator ability while at L-1 reads pretty town. Enough to make me rethink my meta read.

@Kuroi - am I reading right that you counterclaimed you Earth1 role in assessing Snarky was fakeclaiming?

[Clumsy]

Yeah, Kuroi, we need some explanation here please.

[Ranger]

SnarkySnowman is lying. I'm gladiator. I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?

...

[SnarkySnowman]

Ranger vote for Kuroi please

[TellTaleHeart]

Snarky's handling of gladiator ability while at L-1 reads pretty town.

I'm not sure if I agree with that. It wiped the VC slate clean and he sure did cut it close to deadline.

SnarkySnowman is lying. I'm gladiator.

I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?

[Ranger]

Ranger vote for Kuroi please

No.

I'm not voting until I've heard,

extensively

, from both of you.

Especially Kuroi, who's got some 'splainin' to do.

[Clumsy]

SnarkySnowman is lying. I'm gladiator.

I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?

[SnarkySnowman]

Well, I'm here, Kuroi is not, feel free to ask me things, since I'm the other side of the gladiation.

[TellTaleHeart]

I'm not voting until I've heard, extensively, from both of you.

There's 12 hours left to deadline, so I have a feeling this is a luxury we're not going to have.

[TellTaleHeart]

At first I was town leaning on Kuroi for :efforting: when he did on that reads list in Post 854. Not much of it particularly resonates with me, but I thought the vote on Snarky made

enough

sense and not much of an agenda really popped out at me. There are a couple details too. The line about Javajoe came off as just too brazen to be scum. The mildly inflammatory call for Snarky to replace out in Post 857 doesn't seem like something scum would include as part of his push unless he was bussing but barring a spectacular gambit, I'm fairly confident that's not actually the case.

That said, the counterclaim is jarringly strange and definitely needs explaining. I'll be on at lunch so hopefully Kuroi makes an appearance before then.

[SnarkySnowman]

How about the fact that many of kurois reads don't really make sense from a town uninformed perspective?

[KuroiXHF]

Now that I'm going back to work today, my activity level will spike. I promise.

Snarky using gladiator on me because I counterclaimed him is crap. I said that I am a gladiator then asked how people thought if there could be more than one. So the position that Snarky put us in is TvT, except that gladiator isn't strictly a town role:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gladiator

As far as the asking to replace out, I've asked the same to Soren who put out a comparable level of activity. I've also noted in other games that he doesn't scum hunt.

[SnarkySnowman]

You realize you contradict yourself pretty hard by saying this is TvT, then saying gladiator is not strictly a town role, and also having me as your top scum read at one point, right?

[TellTaleHeart]

So the reason for fakeclaiming VT was...

[SnarkySnowman]

Because he's scum? :/

[KuroiXHF]

You realize you contradict yourself pretty hard by saying this is TvT, then saying gladiator is not strictly a town role, and also having me as your top scum read at one point, right?

That's why I used the word, "Except." It's a useful word and an important one to notice.

So the reason for fakeclaiming VT was...

I claimed VT in Earth One, not Earth Two.

[Clumsy]

So the reason for fakeclaiming VT was...

I claimed VT in Earth One, not Earth Two.

True. Ugh. Guys. We have 4 hours left and I will be away during that time. We need a consensus, NOW. I was wanting to lynch Snowman pretty badly before all of this, but Kuroi has been doing some really strange things. In fact, Kuroi, why did you not use your gladiate when Snarky claimed his if you didn't believe he was gladiator? I can think of a few reasons but I want to hear yours. I really hope you're on before I leave.

And again: "I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?" What does this mean? Because it's looking like you know something we don't.

[Clumsy]

Now that I'm going back to work today, my activity level will spike. I promise.

Snarky using gladiator on me because I counterclaimed him is crap. I said that I am a gladiator then asked how people thought if there could be more than one. So the position that Snarky put us in is TvT, except that gladiator isn't strictly a town role:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Gladiator

As far as the asking to replace out, I've asked the same to Soren who put out a comparable level of activity. I've also noted in other games that he doesn't scum hunt.

SnarkySnowman is lying. I'm gladiator.

I don't think there's one this Earth? Do you?

I feel like you're trying to back out of this now. You outright said that he's lying about being a gladiator. So that means that you thought it was a fake claim. Which is something only scum should do (unless very particular circumstances that don't matter here). So why are you calling it a TvT? Shouldn't you think that he's scum? If you thought he was town, would you still 'counter claim'? This doesn't make sense to me at all, and then calling it a TvT seems like you're pushing for a possible no lynch to get out of this today.

I also really like Snowman's 995. But what really does it for me is my point above. This should not be TvT to you. You counterclaimed for a reason. You were a major pusher for Snarky's lynch. You pushed the lynch here telling us he was scum. Now you call it town. I think I made my decision.

VOTE: KuroiXHF

[SnarkySnowman]

Need 3 more votes.

@Mod - can we possibly get an extension pretty please?

[SirCakez]

No extension unless something comes up.