New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[GuyInFreezer]

"lol let's lynch this dude"

"Sure mate."

"Wait I'm an Innoce-"

*voting intensifies*

Vedith

,

Mafia Neapolitan

, was lynched

Day 1

.

Now it is

Night 1

.

The deadline is

(expired on 2016-07-04 12:34:19)

.

[GuyInFreezer]

Rise and shine people
Except for one person.

She ded as f.

Lapsa

,

Macho Townie

, was killed Night 1.

Now it is Day 2.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-07-18 12:40:26).

[GuyInFreezer]

vc 2.00

Not Voting:

Varsoon, Wake88, AGar, Performer, PeregrineV, Zachstralkita, beeboy, Titus, Transcend, Boem_u_dusi, shannon, Dunnstral, Airick10, Almost50, podoboq, implosion, Mirhawk

With

17

votes,

9

to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-07-18 12:40:26)

[Wake1]

POST VEDITH [MAFIA NEOPOLITAN] FLIP

0173 - Nosferatu votes Zach
0177 - Titus: 'Welcome to the townreads Nos.'
0178 - Nosferatu: 'I get such bad vibez from implosion man'
0179 - Transcend: 'nos is leaning town.'
0295 - implosion: 'W/e I guess I probably shouldn't worry too much about him if he's town he'll make it apparent to me. But Nos is worrisome.'
0300 - Peregrine agrees with 178 about bad vibes on implosion
0325 - Almost50 responding to Dunnstral's comment on Nos: 'hardly suggests you're town reading him too.' [More to it]
0403 - implosion: 'Nos is probably town if I had to hazard a guess. The focus on vibes from me seems like an odd thing to be the only thing he's mentioned as scum.'
0419 - Lapsa: 'i actually got problems with Nos. although i haven't been thorough on that read'
0540 - Zach: 'If anyone's opposed to lynching a V/LA we can switch to Nos as I'm fine with that.'
0592 - 'Hi, not caught up, but Zach is better now.'
0739 - Lapsa has Nosferatu as Scum on bottom of list
0840 - Me vs Dunnstral: 'I don't see a lack of consistency here.'
0842 - Dunnstral: 'Nos I'm glad you came out of the shadows to white knight me but have you read the rest of the game?'
0843 - Zach about Nosferatu: 'I'm kinda comfy with voting that slot.'
0965 - Transcend: 'yeah well i think nos is town.'
0966 - Boem: 'You think nosferatu is town? Based on what, his gut feel about implosion? Your reads are weird man, you are too quick to jump to conclusions.'
1033 - Performer: 'Lapsa why do you tr me and what're these problems with Nos?'
1036 - Lapsa: 'nos is lurking'
1095 - Zach: 'I agree with your Nosferatu read, Wake.'
1127 - Zach: 'I'm down with nosferatu, implosion and maybe PeregrineV and shannon lynches.'
1129 - Zach: 'I'm more comfortable with killing Nos. Killing him dead.'
1132 - Titus: 'I am fine with a Nos lynch, not my favorite but acceptable.'
1137 - Wake: 'Zach, Performer, Titus, Dunnstral, Podoq. Vote Nosferatu please.'
1138 - Titus: 'OK, I don 't wanna vote Nos now.'
1141 - Performer: 'I can concur that Nos has been void of substance in his ISO, and for no good reason. '
1162 - Zach:

'Performer
Podoboq
Nosferatu


Top to bottom, least to most.'

1183 - Titus: 'I think it's a town replace out. We cannot mention ongoing though.'
1184 - Nos @ Boem: 'that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.'

1221 - Zach: 'Nos is the lynch let's go'
1222 - Dunn: 'What if I want to get sickofit'
1223 - Titus: 'Nos isn't on my list, so no.'
1224 - podoboq: 'VOTE: nosferatu. I'm OK with this.'

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

1286 - Boem: 'Both Nosferatu and Sickofit could be mafia who just gave up and left the game so I'm fine with lynching either of them.'
1299 - Titus: 'Umm Nos did gather heat and has a wagon. He subbed out so someone more engaged could play. That's townie.'
1305 - Performer:

Before the page 47 behaviors from Zach + Wake, I was thinking Nos was a good place to go too. I was even tr on Wake , as it seemed he was figuring things out logically and wanted feedback on his reads lists, which looked like he was trying involve folks.
Then I voted Trans, agreed with him about scummy Nos before the replace-out post, he asked me to vote Nos and he wasn't even voting Nos at that point, I turned down the request since starting a new wagon was pointless, then his 1159 placed me as scum, as scum, Zach suddenly came out with 1162 placing me as scum too .

Boem, tell me how many games total have you played , as well as how many large normals you've played? When I was newer to FM, I used to think scum was more likely to replace out, but down the road I found town was more likely. It also depends on the situation. In this case, Nos stated replace out due to too many games. Zach and Wake's egregious pushes on that slot also made me lean town on that slot . I've seen this happen before.

VOTE: Wake

1445 - Dunnstral won't vote Nos: 'Switch to sickofit'
1460 - Dunnstral: 'Nosferatu was town'

1501 - Zach: Has Nosferatu as Scumread
1541 - Dunnstral: 'all the lurkers except nos'
1628 - Zach: 'It's a fucking billion lightyears ahead of it because Nos(Now Vedith) is scum and I've already said Sickofit is a mislynch.'
1641 - Zach: VOTE: Vedith
1651 - Transcend: 'Pretty sure implosion is mafia and nos was right about him'
1710 - Dunnstral @ Zach: 'Why even are you voting nos'

1891 - Vedith:

Hello all.
More shortly!

Titus - give me the down low please

1902 - Vedith: '

Titus had a very strong argument to being town. Detail why I should vote her.

'
1922 - Vedith:

Well Titus is absolutely stupid there for claiming regardless of the reason.
Not sure how I feel on this, would Titus be so bold as scum here? However, I'm seeing it more as role hunting rather than saving.
Why would Titus put the chance in someone without knowing their role. And the only way she can know Dunn's role is either as Mason or scum (which she has confirm that she isn't Mason).

UNVOTE: Whoever I'm voting
VOTE: Titus

2073 - Boem: 'Your posts are complete shit. You are fitting replacement for Nosferatu.'
2099 - Zach: 'And you guys are smoking PCP if you don't want to lynch Vedith every time he speaks. We're not lynching Titus, god damn it it's an obvious ML.'

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

*Around 2101 players started to shift against Vedith, and though I Scumread Nosferatu I was fooled by Vedith. I had been willing to ignore the previous slot-occupier in order to be fair.

[beeboy]

Also I read over Varsoon's ISO because everything Titus said made me think he was scum and it is too bs for him to be scum. It remind me a lot of his total bs play from cyberpunk.

[Wake1]

VOTE: Titus

[Wake1]

Beeboy, join me in voting Titus.

[beeboy]

Don't know I am town reading her for the mason gambit. But maybe I am bias because I tried that as town recently >_>

[beeboy]

It would make me sad if Titus saw my town strats and her first reaction was "Let's do that as scum"

[Wake1]

Look at their actions regarding Nosferatu.

[Zachstralkita]

HAHAHA whaddya fucking know i was the second initial person on Nos' wagon and look how THAT turned out. yw



Wake town by the way, because his reactions to the hammer I felt were genuine


I still don't want to vote Titus.

[Wake1]

Zach, WTF.

Look at their actions.

[Zachstralkita]

1902 - Vedith: '

Titus had a very strong argument to being town. Detail why I should vote her.

'

Btw I'm pretty sure this was satire as Titus basically said " hey, I'm town x is town vote x "

[Zachstralkita]

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

[Wake1]

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

Meaning that Dunnstral pisses you off?

[Lapsa]

BAH

~ lyrics:

(..)
As Laima laid herself,
Wrapped thread of life.

refrain:

Rise up, sun, shine brightly!
Adorn cornfield, adorn yard.
Rise up, sun, cleave darkness!
Sanctify our land!
(..)

^{Laima - A goddess of fate in Latvian and Lithuanian mythology.}

[Wake1]

Why kill Lapsa???

FINALLY we have some real data to chew on.

Going back to start and look at interactions.

[Zachstralkita]

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

Meaning that Dunnstral pisses you off?

Yep


I'm very disheartened to say that for some reason today they seem more plausible as scum and they haven't even posted yet LMFAO

Why kill Lapsa???

FINALLY we have some real data to chew on.

Going back to start and look at interactions.

tinfoil: Titus did it because all Lapsa was going to do all game was call her dumb

[Zachstralkita]

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

This is a really bad look for Titus

1 is bullshit

2. ya get the fuck out of here (I actually think this doesn't lend credibility to Titus being scum, it might just be an example of her bad reads - she scumread me, for fuck's sake)

3. ....

4. ........................

5 that's uh.. that's... yeah...

6. bullshit


However I'm still going to vote Performer.

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

[Wake1]

I need more feedback on 2753.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Yeah, good job everyone!

I knew Vedith was trolling. I'm feeling better about Sickofit slot now, especially after voting for mafia PR. Not still entirely sure about that slot, maybe he was just saving his ass but I'm willing to let him off the hook for now. Dunnstral is close to confirmed town to me and I'm feeling good about most people on Nosferatu/Vedith wagon.
We should analyze yesterday's voting around AGar today because mafia was surely trying to steer away from Vedith lynch. The most obvious one is Performer with his weak ass townread on Vedith.

Lapsa kill makes little sense to me, it seemed like he's not that hard to lead into a mislynch for mafia.

[Titus]

@Wake, Any reason we shouldn't wagon you for being a cherrypicker?

Vedith, as scum, tunnelled my slot as nearly the most exclusive content it provided. It was hard defended by people focusing exclusively on me. Scum do that shot to try to persuade more people to tunnel on me. My Now read sucked, but I came around on Vedith and it was my vote that swung Vedith to his death.

There's absolutely zero reason to lynch me today. None.

You can try Wake but I am pretty obviously town.

[Zachstralkita]

The most obvious one is Performer with his weak ass townread on Vedith.

Can you help me out with this? I know Dunnstral's gonna swoop in here and cite some bullshit reason why Performer is town.

podoboq is another choice but something about his reaction to Vedith's claim puts me off from that lynch at the moment....


Titus, if you're not getting lynched today Wake definitely isn't.

I will wagon myself before that happens.

[Wake1]

We should be looking more at

early

player interactions with Nosferatu, not Vedith.

[Titus]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.