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OH! Setup speculation!! My favourite subject!
Here's where I'm at:
Mafia Neapolitan flip gives both 1-shot Vig & Miller credit. Why? Bc they would return "Not Vanilla" to scum, so they would not just skip shooting them (i.e. good distraction).
The accepting the Miller = we have a town Cop (why else would we have a Miller??). So we have a cop and "they" had one. Makes me think they have at least 1 more PR (GF would suffice, but maybe something else due to hints of other PRs existence on the town side).
Back to game: Did anybody notice PV jumped the Mirhawk wagon as soon as Titus said everyone on either wagon was town?? No comment.
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airick is my new favorite poster in the thread
zach you can become my favorite poster maybe if you vote implosion
but your throne has been stolen
also i'm off for two days and i'll probably make a case when i have time- Varsoon
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In post 3209, beeboy wrote:I am not using scum meta. I think that is a stupid move to do as scum and I don't think you are a stupid player.
Hohboy.In post 3210, beeboy wrote:Would you make a completely uncalculated risk as scum?
Please never figure out how I got this title, kthx
I wanna snow you with some absolutely filthy bad gambit one day, beefboy.- Boem_u_dusi
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I'm waiting for Mirhawk to show up and explain his vote on shannon along with Vedith and to say more about his Vedith townread. Pointing out that Vedith softed a PR is also shady. There was alsosomeshade on Mirhawk D1 if I remember correctly.
Those early townreads on Nosferatu/Vedith (including Titus in 177) are extremely suspicious and should not be ignored. Nosferatu/Vedith posts nothing but crap whole D1 and somebody townreads him? Hello? I would be seriously pissed if I were playing as scum with him and he posted something like 1184 so scumreading me is just , at least from my perspective.
PeregrineV's 300 looked weird to me upon reading his ISO. Noted.
From people on Vedith wagon, I think it's between Titus or beeboy. But I'm giving these guys a pass today.
There's no way beeboy survives f3 if he's scum, so I guess we leave him alone for now.
Dunnstral, Zach and Wake are close to confirmed towns for me, Almost50 too (because of claim). I'll continue to unapologetically sheep Dunnstral whom I identified as town very early in the game.
I don't understand AGar's point about me, I think I'm expressing my thoughts just fine, however I admit I got lazy D2. Anyway, I think he's town and wagon on him on D1 was a scum diversion.
I think Mirhawk is a good shot for catching scum. I'd say it's around 50% now.
Implosion, I don't know. It's possible that Nosferatu is not the brightest flower in the field and posted 170 and 178 with implosion as his partner.
Not much to say, really. From my point of view, I think we're doing fine and town wins as long as we play logically and noone does anything stupid.- Transcend
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Probably from meIn post 3228, Boem_u_dusi wrote:There was also some shade on Mirhawk D1 if I remember correctly.- Boem_u_dusi
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I missed that, where did that happen?In post 3229, Transcend wrote:What's your read on implosion subtracting anything Nos said about implosion?- Boem_u_dusi
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Nos pushed initial suspicion on implosion. IT was relatively weak. He never threw a vote or anything his way. AND keep in mind that a theory that has been tossed across this game MIGHT actually be a reality in that we can be in multi-ball.
I just wanna know what your thoughts are on implosion subtracting the whole Nos thing.- Transcend
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Let's see about implosion. I'm doing ISO with few comments along the way.
He was townreading shannon in 231.
He expressed doubts about Sickofit wagon in 259. Fishy. Sickofit has done nothing at that point of the game not to be wagoned.
He voted me without an explanation in 276 when we were past RVS. I'm not grudgy, fine.
He talks aboutsorting Nosin 295, expresses some doubts about him. I dislike this.
He expresses doubts about Mirhawk in 401.
He saysNos is probably townin 403.
Both Sickofit and Nosferatu are in his townreads in 407. This is off. His scumreads are {wake, agar, mirhawk, boem, peregrine, airick, varsoon}.
He saysI rather doubt scum would have randomly claimed machoin 412.
In following posts, he votes Titus, unvotes him and then votes Mirhawk. Some discussion with Titus which is tldr.
He calls Zachtransparent townin 931.
His saysI honestly have no idea how to read anything Wake has posted as alignment-indicativein 944.
Following posts are fluffy. That's fine, null.
He says he hasa very strong townread on Lapsa and a moderately strong townread on Sickin 1016.
He votes PeregrineV in 1018 and is convinced that AGar is scum.
Following posts are pointless bickering about abbreviations. That's fine.
I have to say that his tone starts to feel a bit frustrated, but that's maybe confirmation bias.
Following posts are mason talk. He is strongly against lynching among mason claims.
He saysTitus/dunn/zach are all town. Varsoon probably is too.in 1876. If we lynch him and he flips scum, this is worth looking at.
He defends Nosferatu in 2051. He says he's happy with AGar pressure.
He changes his mind about Nosferatu/Vedith in 2272. He says he's willing to lynch him and saysNos was one of my weakest townreads. He also saysI actually haven't really been paying attention to Vedith's posts. This is extra fishy.
He votes Vedith in 2294.
He unvoted Vedith and votes AGar in 2509. He prefers AGar lynch to Vedith. Little nervous here. Probably a diversion.
He votes Almost50 in 2859.
He saysOh yeah i also want to lynch mirhawk more than before i think but i don't remember why it wasin 2863. Maybe because he was trying to save Vedith? Confirmation bias alert however.
He saysI am also willing to believe that the entire second half of the Vedith wagon is townin 2907. Well thanks for including me in your townreads, but you didn't explain why is this.
He votes Mirhawk in 3016.
He talks down importance of Nosferatu associations in 3123. He doesn't think analyzing Lapsa's kill is going to be fruitful for town.
This is only an ISO as going through the whole game would be too much of a chore, so a lot of stuff here is taken out of context.
My conclusion after doing this is that there should be one scum in implosion/Mirhawk. Also, if he flips scum Sickofit/beeboy is probably town and he was grouping Sickofit/beeboy and Nosferatu together in his townreads in 407.
He has a thing for Mirhawk, he's frequently voting/unvoting him. I wouldn't rule out possibility of w/w here, but I'd say this is v/w interaction.- Boem_u_dusi
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implosion started out this game super strong.
and he was an initial tr of mine, due to him having reads that were ~very~ similar to mine.
he was adding lots of good content, and i liked the foses he came up with.
~THEN~
he comes back after being MIA for all the "mason" drama. doesn't give much input on the active slots. only condones lynches for those that are inactive.
like i asked him to name his best foses. his reads were nothing similar to what he gave before and his best scumreads were all the inactives and didn't delve into the actives at all.- Transcend
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So Ièm back I guess. I'm more skimming then anything else at the moment so I'll just list me general thoughts here as I read.
Titus seems shittier then yesterday. Some of the logical leaps near the beginning of the day rub me the wrong way. I was townreading her previously, but maybe less strongly now. I can't say as I find the case on her that wake was pushing about having bad interactions is particularly appealing though.
Dunn keeps saying that there was no scum kill because he got doc'd. The whole premise is bullshit and I expect that he knows there's no way to prove it so why does he keep saying it. Since there's no way he could know this I'm not really liking the implications of this as the only benefit from saying that is to imply that you're town by means of making it look like scum tried to kill you.
I kinda agree with the sentiment that there was likely no scum in most of the latter people on Ved's wagon. But I probably wouldn't apply that to Dunn and Shannon as the writing was on the wall by that point so I could see bussing happening there.
Dunns 3004 is right on the money.
I'm a hot topic, I should probably be around more.
I seem to have scads of townreads but almost no scumreads in comparison. I would vote Shannon or Dunn though.
I'm more or less caught up now, I appear to ow boem some question replies (technical term) but I'm tired and those look like extensive answers so you're going to have to wait till I have time.
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