New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[implosion]

well n1 there was only one death so he obviously killed peregrine's protection target OH WAIT

is it possible mafia and sk targeted lapsa?
i think mirhawk is just BSing

someone explain this to me my head hurts and i cant be bothered to do mental gymnastics rn

He's almost certainly mafia trying to buy time or who can't think of anything better to say.

[Dunnstral]

By the way, I guarantee you guys that Wake is scum.

Remember I was talking about wake soft defending mirhawk all game? yep

[Boem_u_dusi]

By the way, I guarantee you guys that Wake is scum.

Remember I was talking about wake soft defending mirhawk all game? yep

[Dunnstral]

^ if wake is indeed mafia, and so is mirhawk, zach might even be mafia.

[Almost50]

Almost50, who did you jail Nights 1 & 2?

Holy molly friggin' dang! You guys decided to get all fired up posting while I'm preparing to go to bed???

@Wake:

I already claimed my N1 JK was on Dunn. N2 I JK'd kraska.

I'll try to do a quick catch up before I sign off.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Why did you jailkeep kraska?

[Almost50]

^ I believe that and Mirhawks claim whether you guys like it or not

You must be either drunk/high or a really suicidal scumbag! I mean, his claim was basically proven false with the flip of PV. What are you? Nuts?

[Dunnstral]

OK.

I shot at mirhawk and he didn't die, which means either I was roleblocked (even though I claimed 1-shot, someone thought I was lying) or a scum protective targeted mirhawk

For the record I'm actually a

2

-shot vig

I claimed 1-shot because I wanted to clarify that the lapsa kill was me (though it wasn't apparently), and because I wanted to be not roleblocked for me next kill

[kraska77]

Actually I'll wait to explain why Dunn is conf town until A50 posts.

you dont even have to
dunn could have "scum" written all over his face rn and noone would believe him

[Almost50]

or we have a town vig and dunnstral was a scum vig.

So we have town vig, scum vig and Mafia and we only have 1 kill per night? Or are you suggesting Dunn is actually the Mafia killer who got blocked N1 and the kill on Lapsa was a town vig who never claimed?? I'm not following.

[kraska77]

Almost50, who did you jail Nights 1 & 2?

Holy molly friggin' dang! You guys decided to get all fired up posting while I'm preparing to go to bed???

@Wake:

I already claimed my N1 JK was on Dunn. N2 I JK'd kraska.

I'll try to do a quick catch up before I sign off.

oii im not scum </3

[Dunnstral]

guys "scum vig" is blacklisted in normals

[Almost50]

so we have an even night doctor, a doctor, a nurse and a back up nurse?
but then whats the point of the even night doctor's presence?

EXACTLY!

Yo dunn who did you shoot?

Didn't he claim 1-shot??

Nurse would also inherit from a scum doc.

Really?? Well, call me both a noob and naive, but how does that work?? The scum lose a Doc so the Town gains one?? Or are you suggesting their alignment would change in the middle of the game (which I believe is bastard)?

[implosion]

I think I may have found Mirhawk's scumbuddy.

kraska77 (2): AGar, Zackstralkita
implosion (2): beeboy, Varsoon
Mirhawk (8): implosion, PeregrineV, Boem_u_dusi, Titus, Dunnstral, kraska77, Airick10, shannon
Dunnstral (1): Mirhawk
Boem_u_dusi (3): Wake88, podoboq, Transcend
PeregrineV (1): Almost50

Not Voting: None

The Mirhawk wagon at the height of its glory.

The vote on this wagon that I want to scrutinize the most is definitely Airick's. I'd wager either Airick alone or no scum on the wagon, with a very unlikely off chance of shannon.

In fact looking back I really think Mirhawk scum might paint Airick as scum quite well. The context of his vote is very interesting. He unvotes from the kraska wagon in 3730 and does not re-vote anywhere until he eventually votes mirhawk. Between then, with regards to Mirhawk:

-he directs a question to Mirhawk (not really important)
-he cites the emergence of the Mirhawk wagon as having taken momentum away from kraska
-some conversation in 3775, but no real speculation on Mirhawk's alignment here
-the third paragraph of 3962 in which he questions kraska's pushing Mirhawk over agar, and questions why peregrine hasn't had pressure on him like Mirhawk has
-3965 in which he again compares mirhawk to peregrine, stating that mirhawk has done more in the day and implying that peregrine is a better candidate for pressure due to that
-4052 where he suddenly joins the Mirhawk wagon. This action is in no way, IMO, telegraphed by his previous posts - the opinion that Mirhawk is a good wagon simply appears out of thin air. He gives reasons, but as far as i can tell those reasons ultimately existed at the start of the Mirhawk wagon as well.

And here's why that paints Airick as scum:

he should have seen those reasons when the Mirhawk wagon was fledgling. Take a look at the vote count right after he unvoted from the kraska wagon:

kraska77 (5): AGar, Titus, Zackstralkita, shannon, Wake88
implosion (3): beeboy, Varsoon, Transcend
Mirhawk (5): implosion, PeregrineV, Dunnstral, Boem_u_dusi, kraska77
Dunnstral (1): Mirhawk
PeregrineV (2): pobodoq, Almost50

Not Voting: Airick10

Now, if I'm a townie, this vote count screams to me "I need to focus on sorting kraska, mirhawk and maybe implosion and peregrine." And yet that sorting of mirhawk, using information that

was available at this time

, was delayed until the mirhawk wagon was starting to erupt as the primary wagon! It just reeks of scum who saw that a wagon on their buddy was going to come to the fore, saw that no scum were on it, and felt like there should be at least one busser. As a result, Airick-scum comes up with this Mirhawk scumread out of nowhere, when Airick-town would have evaluated the same information and came to the same conclusion earlier.

I still need to look more at Airick's reaction when he believed that Mirhawk was at L-1 earlier in the game (which on first glance also looks somewhat scummy? He gives the noncommittal "i'm not against the lynch but i wish voters on the wagon would give more information"). Etc.

[implosion]

dunn shooting mirhawk and him staying alive is also REALLY REALLY interesting especially if he flips mafia even night doctor but ugh i need to sleep.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Almost50, you didn't answer my question. Why did you jailkeep kraska? Walk me through your thought process.

[Almost50]

Who knows

Still think Mirhawk is town lol

Ahem.. I'm sorry? Like.. I thought beeboy's brain was starting to malfunction from being in one too many games or something.

[Transcend]

anyways since i looked shady as f-ck and i'm out of actions i'm going to go ahead and roleclaim 2-shot motion detector

N1 I chose Varsoon because I had no idea about him and someone visited him

N2 I chose Dunn because I wanted to see if anyone visited him, I didn't expect him to actually visit then I got him visiting someone.

So uh there's that.

[Transcend]

He's probably bulletproof SK, Mirhawk is..

[Transcend]

Or bulletproof mafia (is that a thing?) I have no idea why there's only been one death per night

[Almost50]

Didn't a50 jailkeep dunn?

Who the fuck knows anymore

I do. I'm the one submitting the action, you know

Although, I did once submit an action and totally forgot whom I targeted and claimed a totally different target .. that was in Borderlands I believe. But this time I KNOW who I've jailed on both nights.

[Almost50]

I protected Titus night one. It was a toss up between her and wake.

Since when do EVEN NIGHT actions work on N1? I wuld've loved for that to be the case when I was an even night vig and died before I could use it!

[Almost50]

PEDIT: And fuck.... Mirhawk just slipped

Tbh, I don't like the tone of this. But I'm also half asleep, so ...

[Boem_u_dusi]

[Almost50]

VOTE: hawk

Yeah, right! As if you didn't know it when you got your role PM!