Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Transcend]

Well I'm just about ready to self vote and remove myself from the game like the other two lynches did.

[Persivul]

According to the VC smithers wasn't on his own final lynch.

[karnos]

Well I'm just about ready to self vote and remove myself from the game like the other two lynches did.

Well, if you really want to get lynched, self voting is a good way to convince me to put my vote back on you...

Honestly, if you are town don't do that crap. The game has been slow last few days, make your case and give some time for people to check in and respond. TBH I feel like the game is in a frustrating place right now, we have several good scum candidates but can't seem to make a good consensus on who to lynch first.

Persivul makes a decent point, and I am not convinced by the doctor claim. I'll put a vote on VOTE: Chip Butty if it will break the stagnation of the game.

But I think the mass claim idea has merit too. If everyone claimed, we could at least get a good sense as to whether the scum are hiding under doctor claims or cop claims, which would be nice.

[podoboq]

VOTE: Aneninen

[Ranger]

For the record:
There are thoughts I am, very deliberately, holding back from giving.

I actually am playing sub-optimally right now because of it, because I think that there's a huge payoff if I time things right.

[Chip Butty]

Chip- Being in the unconfirmed pile, I would consider voting Chip, but I just don't see the strong case on him. I don't see any of Chip's posts as particularly scummy,

How many of his posts are particularly townie? The charge apart from activity is fence-sitting, and no, fence-sitting posts don't look particularly scummy. That's why it's effective.

You keep accusing me of fence-sitting, but you refuse to furnish examples. In fact I have been doing anything BUT fence-sitting. I've already listed some of the strong stances I have taken so far.

As for posting, now that Open 644 has ended and my other games are all in night phase, I can focus on this one. I think we need to take a close look at you on the basis that you are in the Shotty slot and you didn't get picked up as scum in the ill-fated predeccessor game to this one, Open 640. You've made a lot of fine noises in this game, but what have you actually ACHIEVED that is Town? Nothing. In other words, your play fits the pattern you established in Open 640, which I encourage everyone to read: See if you can spot a difference between Persi here and scum!Persi in that game, because I can't.

[Chip Butty]

Persivul makes a decent point

Mind explaining what it is? All he seems to have said, as far as I can see, is that I haven't posted prolifically in what has been a very slow game, and a baseless accusation of fence-sitting...

[Chip Butty]

VOTE: Aneninen

Why Anen? I don't see where he has done anything perticularly scummy...

[podoboq]

VOTE: Aneninen

Why Anen? I don't see where he has done anything perticularly scummy...

ANEN CASE

215, 216, and 217. At the time, I hated Anen's reads on players. That's probably a bit reactionary to the fact that he referred to my posts as "flailing" when it should be obvious to those in retrospect that I was just trying to be understood, and mad at being L-1ed for unvoting a player I townread. Altogether, though, I don't like the "I think this post is towny, and this post is shitty, and this other post is shitty, therefore these players are a scum team" style of gameplay. That's what these posts are, they're Anen's first real pieces of content in the game, and it will end up being the bulk of his playstyle.

This trend of opinion with a lack of analysis continues in 279.

Spoiler: the reaction test

Lol let it

("it" is the wagon on Smith)

happen for now. It's not like I'm not questioning it for no reason..

Are you scum with Podoboq?

does that train of logic follow from the idea that I'd sacrifice myself for a scum mate who is about to get lynched?

I'm flattered but no. I'm not scum.

That was a reaction test on two levels. And you didn't give a scummy reaction.

The Smithereens wagon is bad.

I find this to be really wonky, and I'm inclined to think it's scummy. It's the first time Anen actually interacts directly with a player, and it seems pedantic. It looks like he's trying to establish a reason to conclude that Smith is town, then uses any response as a justification for drawing that conclusion. Why would Anen do that as scum? To justify pushing the counter to Smith, which falls in line with his scumread on me. It's like a reverse chainsaw, if I'm understanding chainsawing correctly.

Spoiler: response to votes on him

VOTE: Ananenin

This vote, in this situation makes me think that Smithereens is indeed town. (As scum why would he launch a new wagon instead of pushing any viable counter?)

you're right i don't
VOTE: anenien (sp?)

This vote, on the other hand, is not town at all.

(I snipped out quotes that established context for the sake of making a smaller post)

If the player Anen townreads votes him, he calls it evidence of him being town, while in Transcend's case, it's scummy, even though they have basically the same context. He also uses this chance to refer to his wagon as not viable, which is cute.

The next several posts are somewhat contentless, so I'm not going to delve deep onto them, but if you read the ISO yourself you can see what I'm talking about. Anen isn't directly interacting with players and isn't providing enough explanation of his opinions for my liking.

Spoiler: almost deadline post

There's no time.

All we can do, and this goes for anyone nearby, is to post a short summary about these three names, in the following form:

Podoboq - I voted him earlier. I'm conlficted on him.
Smith - I didn't vote him earlier. I don't think he's scum.
Penguin - I'm voting for him. I'm conflicted on him. (Mostly because of his latests'.)

Having read it back it looks terrible in my case, but I hope you get the point. Posts like these will be valuable later.

I actually really like this. Anen gets more open around deadline. This is the biggest thing that would make me want to keep Anen around. However, this activity near deadline could be because all of the available people to lynch are town, and Anen is going for town points because no matter who flips, Anen gave a little sighing disapproval beforehand.

Spoiler: reaction to karnos claim

So Podoboq is town.
Most probably these: Murdercat, Karnos, Ranger

In day one, Anen believed that there was most likely one scum between me and Penguin, but not two. Since I'm confirmed to him now, he should probably be going after Penguin, but the only mention of him today is in 1338. I would have expected more focus from town.


So there are a few actual things in hear that I find scummy, but mostly, it's the lack of appropriate town play. Townies should engage other players, appear to be searching for town and scum, and also provide reason why they read people the way they do. Quoting a post and calling it "pigeon poop" doesn't cut it, so I only see searching for town and scum, and that's just not good enough for me, especially since I don't think the conclusions that Anen has drawn are all that great.

[Chip Butty]

Oh, okay...I thought you might have something more. Actually I need to revisit that, and re-evaluate.

[Aneninen]

I'll post today.

[Chip Butty]

I mean, something more recent...Your post and your vote were kind of far apart from each other...

Ninja'd Anen

[Chip Butty]

What is wrong with you lot? Yet again, read 1568. That's a claim of N2 Doc saving MC.

There was a kill n2, your claim doesn't really hold much water.

True, but what I am not seeing is why you are coloring green several players whose claims are not substantiated, or who have been the targets of unsubstantiated investigations. You are in danger of makking some players undeservedly look confTown. I'm not saying that it is scummy at this point, but it could def hurt Town.

Though, it does make me curious, anyone done the math to see if it might be worth mass-claiming at this point? I know from the previous incarnation of the setup that it's a bad move to make on day 1, but with so many roles already outed maybe it would help us sort the remaining scum.

LIVING PLAYERS

Ranger - doc n1

SirCakez - ?

MURDERCAT (replaces MurderCat) - ?

karnos - cop n1

Aneninen - ?

Transcend - cop n2

Persivul (replaces drmyshottyizsik) - ?
Chip Butty - doc n2

PenguinPower - doc n3
podoboq - cop n5

Dead Players

Smithereens, Town Cop, was lynched Day 1.
Dunnstral, Town Doctor, was lynched Day 2.
DixC, Town Cop, was killed Night 2.

If all claims are true so far, we have 5 cops and 4 docs. That leaves one town cop or doc, and 3 scum. If the un-claiming players all claimed, it seems like it would be a pro-town result to me.

Actually, if we assume ranger's vouch for murdercat is legit, which I think we should, murdercat should be the LAST claim, as we know and trust he is town. This forces any scum in the unconfirmed players to pick roles before they know for sure what is potentially possible in the setup.

Is there ANY way this could hurt town? Don't start claiming unless the majority think it's a good idea, but a this point I think it makes sense.

[Chip Butty]

UNVOTE:

Let's see where we are:

N1:
Ranger claims doctor, protected murdercat, no kill N1.
Karnos claimed cop, innocent on podoboq

N2:
Transcend claimed cop, innocent on penguin

Claims plus flips:
Cop:

Smithers, DixC

, Karnos, Transcend
Doctor:

Dunnstral

, Ranger

Unclaimed: Persivul, Aneninen, Chip Butty, PenguinPower, MURDERCAT, SirCakez, podoboq

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'VE MISSED SOMETHING

If we believe all claims:

Ranger, Murdercat, Karnos, Podoboq, Transcend, Penguin

Persivul, Aneninen, Chip Butty, SirCakez

We're at 7:3. If no doc saves, tomorrow is 5:3 mylo, then NL for 4:3 lylo.

We have 0 - 2 investigations remaining.

If we believe the claims, we lynch in {Persivul, Aneninen, Chip Butty, SirCakez} today.

VOTE: Chip Butty
Totally fenceshitty ISO.

And here is the original version of what karnos is doing. Sure, "if we believe all claims", but why should we believe them? They are for the most part unverified and unsubstantiated.

Is it coincidence that both are using this approach to throw shade on me?

[MURDERCAT]

For the record:
There are thoughts I am, very deliberately, holding back from giving.

I actually am playing sub-optimally right now because of it, because I think that there's a huge payoff if I time things right.

I think Ranger is town because I don't get how scum could no kill night 1.

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler: VCA if you believe claims

karnos

(4): DixC, PenguinPower, Transcend, SirCakez

Ranger

(2): Aneninen,

karnos

MURDERCAT

(2):

Smithereens

, drmyshottyizsik

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1):

Ranger

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

, SirCakez

SirCakez

(2):

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

, SirCakez

SirCakez

(2):

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

podoboq

(5): Chip Butty, drmyshottyizsik,

MURDERCAT

,

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower,

podoboq

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

drmyshottyizsik

(3): DixC,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Chip Butty,

MURDERCAT

, PenguinPower

karnos

(2):

podoboq

, drmyshottyizsik

Smithereens

(1): Transcend

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(1):

Ranger

Ranger

(3): Aneninen, DixC, Maruchan

Smithereens

(2):

MURDERCAT

,

karnos

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

MURDERCAT

(2): Transcend,

podoboq

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(3): drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Smithereens

(3):

karnos

, SirCakez, Transcend

Ranger

(3): DixC, Maruchan, PenguinPower

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

PenguinPower

(2):

Ranger

,

MURDERCAT

SirCakez

(1): drmyshottyizsik

MURDERCAT

(1):

podoboq

podoboq

(1): Aneninen

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(4):

karnos

, SirCakez, Transcend,

MURDERCAT

Ranger

(3): DixC, Maruchan,

podoboq

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

podoboq

(2): Aneninen, PenguinPower

SirCakez

(1): drmyshottyizsik

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(3):

karnos

, SirCakez,

podoboq

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

Ranger

(2): DixC, Maruchan

Aneninen

(1):

Smithereens

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Transcend

(1): drmyshottyizsik

MURDERCAT

(1): Transcend

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

MURDERCAT

(4): Transcend, DixC,

karnos

,

podoboq

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

Smithereens

(1): SirCakez

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Transcend

(1): drmyshottyizsik

Aneninen

(1):

Smithereens

Ranger

(1): Maruchan

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(4): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

,

Ranger

MURDERCAT

(3): DixC,

karnos

,

podoboq

Aneninen

(2):

Smithereens

, drmyshottyizsik

Smithereens

(2): SirCakez, Transcend

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Ranger

(1): Maruchan

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(6): SirCakez, Transcend,

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

MURDERCAT

(2): DixC,

karnos

Aneninen

(1): drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(6): SirCakez, Transcend,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

MURDERCAT

(1): DixC

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

, drmyshottyizsik, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(4): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

, drmyshottyizsik

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

podoboq

(5): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

, drmyshottyizsik,

Smithereens

Smithereens

(4): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

karnos

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

podoboq

(6): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

, DixC, drmyshottyizsik

[L-1]

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Dunnstral,

karnos

, Transcend

[L-2]

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Dunnstral

(1):

MURDERCAT

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(5): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

, DixC

PenguinPower

(4):

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Ranger

(1): Dunnstral

Not Voting

(0):

None.

PenguinPower

(6):

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez, Chip Butty, Aneninen

(L-1)

podoboq

(3): PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Ranger

(1): Dunnstral

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(6): PenguinPower,

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

podoboq

, Aneninen, drmyshottyizsik

PenguinPower

(4):

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez, Chip Butty

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, Dunnstral

MURDERCAT

(1): DixC

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(5):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

podoboq

, SirCakez

Dunnstral

(3):

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

MURDERCAT

Aneninen

(2): DixC, Dunnstral

Not Voting

(3): Aneninen, Chip Butty, Transcend

Smithereens

(7):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

podoboq

, SirCakez, Transcend, Dunnstral

(LYNCH)

Dunnstral

(5):

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

MURDERCAT

, Chip Butty, DixC

Not Voting

(1): Aneninen

VOTE: cake

Gunna stick with this. I think a mass claim might be good, although not getting a cop guilty in this setup is pretty rough. It will narrow our pool down though.

[Persivul]

I'll post today.

Looking forward to it.

VOTE: Aneninen

[Persivul]

Spoiler: VCA if you believe claims

karnos

(4): DixC, PenguinPower, Transcend, SirCakez

Ranger

(2): Aneninen,

karnos

MURDERCAT

(2):

Smithereens

, drmyshottyizsik

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1):

Ranger

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

, SirCakez

SirCakez

(2):

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

,

podoboq

, SirCakez

SirCakez

(2):

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

podoboq

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

podoboq

(5): Chip Butty, drmyshottyizsik,

MURDERCAT

,

Smithereens

,

karnos

karnos

(2): PenguinPower,

podoboq

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(2):

Ranger

, Transcend

drmyshottyizsik

(3): DixC,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Chip Butty,

MURDERCAT

, PenguinPower

karnos

(2):

podoboq

, drmyshottyizsik

Smithereens

(1): Transcend

Aneninen

(1): Maruchan

Ranger

(1): Aneninen

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(1):

Ranger

Ranger

(3): Aneninen, DixC, Maruchan

Smithereens

(2):

MURDERCAT

,

karnos

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

MURDERCAT

(2): Transcend,

podoboq

Maruchan

(1): SirCakez

Not Voting

(3): drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Smithereens

(3):

karnos

, SirCakez, Transcend

Ranger

(3): DixC, Maruchan, PenguinPower

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

PenguinPower

(2):

Ranger

,

MURDERCAT

SirCakez

(1): drmyshottyizsik

MURDERCAT

(1):

podoboq

podoboq

(1): Aneninen

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(4):

karnos

, SirCakez, Transcend,

MURDERCAT

Ranger

(3): DixC, Maruchan,

podoboq

drmyshottyizsik

(2):

Smithereens

, Chip Butty

podoboq

(2): Aneninen, PenguinPower

SirCakez

(1): drmyshottyizsik

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(3):

karnos

, SirCakez,

podoboq

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

Ranger

(2): DixC, Maruchan

Aneninen

(1):

Smithereens

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Transcend

(1): drmyshottyizsik

MURDERCAT

(1): Transcend

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

MURDERCAT

(4): Transcend, DixC,

karnos

,

podoboq

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

Smithereens

(1): SirCakez

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Transcend

(1): drmyshottyizsik

Aneninen

(1):

Smithereens

Ranger

(1): Maruchan

PenguinPower

(1):

Ranger

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(4): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

MURDERCAT

,

Ranger

MURDERCAT

(3): DixC,

karnos

,

podoboq

Aneninen

(2):

Smithereens

, drmyshottyizsik

Smithereens

(2): SirCakez, Transcend

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Ranger

(1): Maruchan

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(6): SirCakez, Transcend,

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

MURDERCAT

(2): DixC,

karnos

Aneninen

(1): drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(6): SirCakez, Transcend,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

MURDERCAT

(1): DixC

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(3): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

Maruchan

(3):

MURDERCAT

, drmyshottyizsik, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

Smithereens

,

karnos

podoboq

(4): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

, drmyshottyizsik

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

podoboq

(5): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Ranger

, drmyshottyizsik,

Smithereens

Smithereens

(4): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Maruchan,

karnos

Maruchan

(2):

MURDERCAT

, DixC

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Not Voting

(1): Transcend

podoboq

(6): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

, DixC, drmyshottyizsik

[L-1]

Smithereens

(5): SirCakez,

podoboq

, Dunnstral,

karnos

, Transcend

[L-2]

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Dunnstral

(1):

MURDERCAT

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(5): Aneninen, PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

, DixC

PenguinPower

(4):

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): Chip Butty

Ranger

(1): Dunnstral

Not Voting

(0):

None.

PenguinPower

(6):

podoboq

,

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez, Chip Butty, Aneninen

(L-1)

podoboq

(3): PenguinPower,

Smithereens

,

Ranger

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik

drmyshottyizsik

(1): DixC

Ranger

(1): Dunnstral

Not Voting

(0):

None.

podoboq

(6): PenguinPower,

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

podoboq

, Aneninen, drmyshottyizsik

PenguinPower

(4):

MURDERCAT

, Transcend, SirCakez, Chip Butty

Smithereens

(2):

karnos

, Dunnstral

MURDERCAT

(1): DixC

Not Voting

(0):

None.

Smithereens

(5):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

podoboq

, SirCakez

Dunnstral

(3):

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

MURDERCAT

Aneninen

(2): DixC, Dunnstral

Not Voting

(3): Aneninen, Chip Butty, Transcend

Smithereens

(7):

karnos

, drmyshottyizsik, PenguinPower,

podoboq

, SirCakez, Transcend, Dunnstral

(LYNCH)

Dunnstral

(5):

Ranger

,

Smithereens

,

MURDERCAT

, Chip Butty, DixC

Not Voting

(1): Aneninen

VOTE: cake

Gunna stick with this. I think a mass claim might be good, although not getting a cop guilty in this setup is pretty rough. It will narrow our pool down though.

What's the point of the VCA? Looks like cakez parked for long periods, then hopped opportunistically toward the end. Is that it , or is there something else?

[Persivul]

For the record:
There are thoughts I am, very deliberately, holding back from giving.

I actually am playing sub-optimally right now because of it, because I think that there's a huge payoff if I time things right.

Ranger drama

[podoboq]

I mean, something more recent...Your post and your vote were kind of far apart from each other...

Transcendence looks.......a bit better.

Anen still looks bad for all the reasons I pointed out in the case, (I voted for him then too).

Anen hasn't been posting, despite getting of V/LA, and despite saying that he'll swoop in and join the conversation once he gets off of V/LA.

[SirCakez]

Yo, whoever is townreading Transcend, can they talk to me why?

[Transcend]

I'm sick and tired of having to act like a nuisance in order to not get scumread in these games.

Chip's been scumming hard the past couple of posts.

[Transcend]

Persivul is shitting town to me right now

My name is Transcend. Not "Trascend" or "Transcendence".

[Persivul]

Yo, whoever is townreading Transcend, can they talk to me why?

He claimed cop with an inno on penguin.

Penguin makes sense as a town investigation target - he was up to L-1 at one point, so a lot of people find him suspicious, and transcend was on the wagon himself.

Scum fake claiming prefer to go with doctor, as claiming cop creates a conftown.

Penguin does not make sense as target for a scum fake claim. As noted, he was already at L-1, so he's a potential mislynch. You don't fake conftown someone who you see as mislynchable. You fake conftown someone who you think you'll need to NK anyway.

[Transcend]

I kinda wish in hindsight that I checked karnos b/c if I greened him it would clear him AND podoboq. If I redded him it wouldn't make podo red but it would make people less trustworthy of him than they are now.

I still think they're both town, but now I'll have no idea.