Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[Killthestory]

so how are you all today

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well other than my second best townread getting lolhammer'd for no reason i'm quite fine.

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oh wait kts just hammered his townread

normally i'd lynch someone for this but it's KTS who gives a general "idgaf" feeling in every single game he plays.

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actually him flipping green will probably be o.k. due to information. i just like having townreads alive.

[Thor665]

I mean, I see evidence of sloppy play - can you translate it from sloppy to scummy?

Is what I said about him being scummy not reasonable? And do you think that what he did is towny? Assuming you're okay with his play, what actions would he have to do to convince you he's scum?

It might be reasonable, but it might not be - what I'm saying is that sloppy play...is NAI. I never sloppy play (or at least when I'm accussed of sloppy play, I massively disagree, and I've been accused as both alignments). But that's because my playstyle is non-sloppy - it's not like I get a scum PM and go 'awesome, time to play ridiculous!" and I don't think anyone else does either. Bad logic is a thing, just generic sloppy - that's playstyle.

I do not think what he did was towny.
I also don't think it was scummy.
I think it was sloppy. I said that already.

He would have to do actions that I could see scum wanting to do to advance their wincon.

I note that you didn't actually answer my question, was that intentional? If not - could you answer it now?

[Thor665]

vague framework of scum motivation to attach to it.

which is why it's an actually worthwhile lynch and i don't get why half of the town is reading karnos as town for no reason?

Welcome to half of the reads in the game

Well I think the reason is that reading quote walls is boring, ditto parsing mutual accusations of lying. Plus there's I think a natural tendency to read "they're fighting" as "probably t/t".

Parsing mutual accusations of lying is one of my absolute favorite scumhunting tools.

[Thor665]

1. My past game match with him parallels him right now, he's acting like noobtown.

2. The tone given in his posts appears genuine and consistent. No mood swings like other players.

3. His vote on Io seen as "reaching" is another reason I solidly townread him. While I don't think that he is voting mafia at the moment, I think that his vote was justified and the way he voted was towny. I just think it's wrong.

1. How do you differentiate newb town from newb scum?

2. Isn't it normal for people to have moods that change - if he really comes across as not having changing moods, that would suggest he's a robot or something, which is unnatural. Why does that suggest town and normalacy to you?

3. His vote might have been justified, but I will note that even in his strongest defense of his intended meaning that Io is "stretching" he *AGREES* that he was attacking me - he just wants to claim he was attacking some other people too. So, at that stage, what is scummy about Io's "stretch" exactly in Karnos' mind to justify attacking someone for pointing out something that was true?

[karnos]

I seem to have a talent for getting hammered on weekends while I'm away from my computer, second game in a row where this happened.

GL town. Make sure you lynch Io for me tomorrow.

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1. My past game match with him parallels him right now, he's acting like noobtown.

2. The tone given in his posts appears genuine and consistent. No mood swings like other players.

3. His vote on Io seen as "reaching" is another reason I solidly townread him. While I don't think that he is voting mafia at the moment, I think that his vote was justified and the way he voted was towny. I just think it's wrong.

1. How do you differentiate newb town from newb scum?

2. Isn't it normal for people to have moods that change - if he really comes across as not having changing moods, that would suggest he's a robot or something, which is unnatural. Why does that suggest town and normalacy to you?

3. His vote might have been justified, but I will note that even in his strongest defense of his intended meaning that Io is "stretching" he *AGREES* that he was attacking me - he just wants to claim he was attacking some other people too. So, at that stage, what is scummy about Io's "stretch" exactly in Karnos' mind to justify attacking someone for pointing out something that was true?

1. fu

2. ck

3. you

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I seem to have a talent for getting hammered on weekends while I'm away from my computer, second game in a row where this happened.

GL town. Make sure you lynch Io for me tomorrow.

this game doesn't end until vengeance is found. rip my friend. your lynch was honestly the most ridiculous thing i've seen.

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actually karnos myself (and kts) will probably get subbed out due to repetitive swearing. but you will be avenged.

i'm not gonna stop swearing btw lol.

[Thor665]

1. My past game match with him parallels him right now, he's acting like noobtown.

2. The tone given in his posts appears genuine and consistent. No mood swings like other players.

3. His vote on Io seen as "reaching" is another reason I solidly townread him. While I don't think that he is voting mafia at the moment, I think that his vote was justified and the way he voted was towny. I just think it's wrong.

1. How do you differentiate newb town from newb scum?

2. Isn't it normal for people to have moods that change - if he really comes across as not having changing moods, that would suggest he's a robot or something, which is unnatural. Why does that suggest town and normalacy to you?

3. His vote might have been justified, but I will note that even in his strongest defense of his intended meaning that Io is "stretching" he *AGREES* that he was attacking me - he just wants to claim he was attacking some other people too. So, at that stage, what is scummy about Io's "stretch" exactly in Karnos' mind to justify attacking someone for pointing out something that was true?

1. fu

2. ck

3. you

I'm sorry, were the questions too intense for you?
Or are my questions blatantly insulting?
What's your deal man? I feel like I'm playing with an eight year old right now.

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no im just tired of having to explain myself when i've made myself clear

[Thor665]

No, that's bull-hookey - you have not made yourself clear on the points I questioned.

If you can quote answers to those questions I will auto sheep you for the rest of the game in apology and defend your cussing adamantly to the mod as good play.
So, go ahead and do that.

Or man up and just answer valid questions.

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i don't really give a shit about one vote on me lol

[mhsmith0]

I seem to have a talent for getting hammered on weekends while I'm away from my computer, second game in a row where this happened.

GL town. Make sure you lynch Io for me tomorrow.

Any opinions on anyone else?

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wait i misread that lol

still i don't feel like answering your questions any more than i have, so deal with it.

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mhsmith is scum he's talking to karnos like he knows he's town after he just l-1'd him.

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if you thought he was scum you wouldn't give a fuck about who he thought was scum. but you're scum that just lynched an easy mislynch.

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it's 2/3 luna, mhsmith, rosske quote me on it.

[mhsmith0]

if you thought he was scum you wouldn't give a fuck about who he thought was scum. but you're scum that just lynched an easy mislynch.

You really don't know how to read people don't you? Karnos came in and gave an empty opinion on io; the fact that he'd do that is possibly town indicative (in which case it's helpful to get more info from him), but also possible wifom by a scum who's dying (innwhichncase it'd be REALLY helpful to get more info out of him).

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shut the FUCK UP

don't discredit my reads

[mhsmith0]

Like, in twilight you ALWAYS ask for more info from whoever has been lynched. That's like basic common sense.

[mhsmith0]

shut the FUCK UP

don't discredit my reads

Well, I'm suspicious of Luna, but you also read me as wolf just now for a pretty dumb reason.

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YOURE SUSPICIOUS OF LUNA YET YOU LYNCHED THE MOTHERFUCKING PERSON THAT LUNA JUST LYNCHED LIKE A WALK IN THE PARK

WHEN THE NEXT DAY PHASE STARTS YOUR ASS IS GRASS