Open 647: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)


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Post Post #1975 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:10 am

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this day feels like it's gone for weeks
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Post Post #1976 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:15 am

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Agree
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Post Post #1977 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:14 pm

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In post 1966, Ranger wrote:Here's an idea.
Transcend is, sort-of, vaguely making analysis: not much, not very well, fairly biased and arrogant (which is ironic given his accusation about me), but he is, at least,
doing work
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I'm a little exhausted right now, and I'll have a busy day or two of work (I guarantee I'll be free by Wednesday though), so I may not be able to finish my own analysis right now...but at least I am doing some.

Nobody else has
.
Literally, none of you.

I'm not talking commentary.
All of us are doing commentary.
Commenting on the latest rounds of posting from players.
Meh. My vacation messed with my ability to follow the game a little, but now that I have caught up I see nothing has actually changed. I still think SirCakez is scummy. I also think by PoE one of the doc claims is scum. Other than that, it's just beating around the same bush over and over.

BTW, I feel good to good this now that I have had a chance to read through from my PC.

VOTE: SirCakez

Nothing is "super obvious scum", but nothing is from anyone else so we have to pick someone somehow. What I really don't like is how he has been reliably predicting lynch flips as town pretty much all game long. If his town reads are so good, he should be strongly opposing the lynch instead of sorta kinda commenting occasionally while letting the lynches happen. OTOH, I think the more likely explanation is that he is playing from knowledge as scum, and looking for some positive town cred by seeming to oppose the lynches he knows will flip green.


I've suspected him since back day 2. Can we please just flip him? If he is town we congratulate scum for playing a damn fine game and hope for a doc save. If he is scum, I can say "told you so" and we can look for his partners tomorrow.
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Post Post #1978 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:16 pm

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L-1 him cat. You've had time to read.

Penguin as my inno you're obligated to vote with me.
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Post Post #1979 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:03 pm

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I have not had time to read, I drove for 14 hours today. Tomorrow I will have time to read.
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Post Post #1980 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:46 pm

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SDFJSDLFKSDJFS

penguin. l-1 him.
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Post Post #1981 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:38 am

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VOTE: SirCakez

I really don't see another decent option at this point. Transcend is being hyper, which is a bit offputting (and I am not obligated to vote with you), but he's keeping the game going. I am a bit curious as to why Cakez is still alive after last night, and I really don't have anything to go on with the others. Gut tells me karnos is scum, but I literally have nothing to back that up with.

L-1.

Let's get this over with.
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Post Post #1982 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:41 am

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Not quick hammering fwiw
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Post Post #1983 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:51 am

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That's fine. Do your reading and offer up an alternative if you can see one.
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Post Post #1984 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:35 am

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Let it sit for a day. If nothing happens we'll know that either cakez is scum, or the entire scum team has already voted and can be found in {pers, trans, karnos, penguin}.
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Post Post #1985 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 1984, Persivul wrote:{pers, trans, karnos, penguin}.
The entire scum team is definitely in here lol
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Post Post #1986 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:15 am

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In my experience one scum would stay off in hope of being the hammer in this situation.
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Post Post #1987 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:44 am

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Chip my lad can you acknowledge this
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Post Post #1988 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:59 am

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Official Vote Count


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(4): Persivul, Transcend, karnos, PenguinPower (
L-1
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Not Voting
(4): MURDERCAT, SirCakez, Ranger, Chip Butty

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-08-09 18:00:00)

Mod Notes: Chip Butty is on V/LA until Aug 10
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Post Post #1989 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:17 am

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we might be waiting a while....
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Post Post #1990 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:34 am

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In post 1989, SirCakez wrote:we might be waiting a while....
Why not make good use of the time? If you aren't scum, who is? When you flip town, who should we lynch?
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Post Post #1991 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:57 am

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If I get lynched then scum just wins unless a doc stops a kill
scum team is likely pers/transcend/penguin
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Post Post #1992 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:08 am

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K can someone just hammer
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Post Post #1993 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:16 pm

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I want chip to catch up today
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Post Post #1994 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:11 pm

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Chip is V/LA for the rest of this phase.
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Post Post #1995 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:35 pm

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Persivul wrote:You weren't doing jack shit for much of the game.
Largely for medical reasons.

Also, past contributions don't matter as much as current ones. I can't contribute anything of substance tonight. But I can do that tomorrow.
Penguin is the only living player with fewer posts than you.
Post count has never equaled content amount. You can have 300 posts and have less content than a player with sub-50.
Persivul wrote:Here's analysis for you: on N3, scum kill a N? cop before a N5 cop.
This ignores that they killed a
confirmed town
player during the night, leaving an
unconfirmed
player alive
in MYLO
. Emphasis: mislynch-and-lose. As in, if SirCakez was a cop for N3, then what's to fear? An innocent? A guilty? The town has absolutely no reason to believe, or disbelieve, him enough for the scum to fear him above a confirmed town player.

This has been stated by MULTIPLE players.

There are other reasons SirCakez can be scum.
For instance, his failure to claim what night his cop is for.

But him not being nightkilled last night?
Yeah, that's definitely not among them.
Transcend wrote:Also i don't buy ranger saying she'll give up and hand me a scum win. She's been trying to rope me since d2 and i don't think she'd give up for such a trivial reason.
After the BS I've suffered from my last like TEN GAMES OR SO?

Yeah, sick of it. So yes. I would. If nobody is willing to put time and effort into actually trying, then I'll just side with the person who gave the closest semblance of giving effort.

If the town players want to blame me for that, then they can. But they also, by virtue of it, must acknowledge that they themselves did not give it when I flat-out threatened action.

And yes.
Fire and Ice players should remember:
I fully supported RC's threat-vote on a townread.

I'm at
that
point.
Quite the RANGE.
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Post Post #1996 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:44 pm

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then why not just hammer cakez who you've "fosed all game"
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Post Post #1997 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:18 pm

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I'm hoping Chip will still check in though.

Whatever I guess I'll hammer tonight. Who hasn't checked in?
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Post Post #1998 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:18 pm

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PRAISE AMERICA
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Post Post #1999 (ISO) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:20 pm

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Chip just won a game that ended. I think he flaked from this game

1. Because his partner is L-1

2. Because he scumclaimed

3. Because his other partner is flailing into oblivion

just a theory
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