Mini 1805 [C'est fini!]

[Dragon of the West]

Meh

I was 2-shot vig

Sorry PJ

Your read on me was bad

Did you shoot Dwlee or robb N1?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd have to check my mailbox but by memory I think it was Robb

[DrippingGoofball]

hahaha infinity was scum that whole time

How the hell did he get killed????

[DrippingGoofball]

and where did the scum kill go?

[Titus]

hahaha infinity was scum that whole time

How the hell did he get killed????

and where did the scum kill go?

Aren't you the vig?

[Dragon of the West]

wait...wut

[Shiro]

well this is weird and I doubt we have 2 vig runnign amok

[F-oh-ex]

@Titus DGB claimed shooting PJ though. However, this probably means we do have another scum - I agree with what Shiro said. And Mafia's kill was obviously either docced/blocked or they targetted the same person DGB did. Same thing would have had to happen Night 1 too though...

[Eggman]

hahaha infinity was scum that whole time

How the hell did he get killed????

Nice shot..? I'm assuming you vigged Robb and Infinity, and mafia killed PJ because it was the logical thing to do.
If there's an SK, I guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out. Because I'm still pretty sure that the second kills were just a vig.
This quote is confusing though

[Eggman]

Never mind, I can't read
Eh, DGB being the vig makes sense I think, because the vig kills have been more emotional OMGUSes

[Eggman]

@Titus DGB claimed shooting PJ though. However, this probably means we do have another scum - I agree with what Shiro said. And Mafia's kill was obviously either docced/blocked or they targetted the same person DGB did. Same thing would have had to happen Night 1 too though...

I believe Mafia can kill mafiosos; maybe they killed Infinity because they didn't want a replacement? And also for more SK confusion which is always nice.

[F-oh-ex]

@Titus DGB claimed shooting PJ though. However, this probably means we do have another scum - I agree with what Shiro said. And Mafia's kill was obviously either docced/blocked or they targetted the same person DGB did. Same thing would have had to happen Night 1 too though...

I believe Mafia can kill mafiosos; maybe they killed Infinity because they didn't want a replacement? And also for more SK confusion which is always nice.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

[Eggman]

Same thing as a PR targeting themselves
Just an extreme form of bussing?

[F-oh-ex]

1. AFAIK general role for PRs is no self-targetting.
2. What would Mafia possibly gain by killing their partner at night? Just... what? Go eat a Snickers or something.
I swear, if you weren't town, Egg...

[F-oh-ex]

From what I read on wiki, SK is often Bulletproof/X-shot Bulletproof. That could also explain the "missing" kills.

[F-oh-ex]

Interesting (although probably irrelevant fact): everyone alive was either on Shiro wagon (DotW and I) or NJAC wagon (the rest).

Egg is Town.
DGB's claim would have to be some kind of sick weird gambit if he's not Town. And I did townread Smithereens.
DotW is also pretty Townish in my eyes.
Titus is a townlean from skimming her ISO. Her previous slot, atm, was completely NAI.

Derek12, I really didn't like his Day 2 play, especially that hammer. Was it necessary to push the game forward and it was the only wagon happening? My townlean here is nullified. Slight FoS until I ISO you meticulously.
Shiro - your slot reeked of scum so much that I'd be inclined to think you're Jester if this was still a thing. I wish I had gathered some info about you but so far, you're scum to me.

I'll redo some ISOs, starting with Titus and Derek - they're the quickest ones to do.

That splits my current read list in 4-2. General consensus seemed to be that the setup is either 10v3 or 9v3v1. It seems that presence of SK is confirmed now. So unless it's actually 9v2v1, I'm one scumread short... time to verify my Townreads then.

[F-oh-ex]

If I'm not mistaken, 3/7 have claimed already. I guess it's too early for massclaim?

[Shiro]

@Titus DGB claimed shooting PJ though. However, this probably means we do have another scum - I agree with what Shiro said. And Mafia's kill was obviously either docced/blocked or they targetted the same person DGB did. Same thing would have had to happen Night 1 too though...

I believe Mafia can kill mafiosos; maybe they killed Infinity because they didn't want a replacement? And also for more SK confusion which is always nice.

Even ,,,,if they could why would they kill their own ? like what? what?

[DrippingGoofball]

Even ,,,,if they could why would they kill their own ? like what? what?

Exactly

makes no sense

I'm very confused

[DrippingGoofball]

Do we have an SK, and some kills were stopped?

[Shiro]

Legit

We might mot have a vig

Have an sk and you are scum pretending to be a vig

[Shiro]

Like, it makes more sense to me tbh

[F-oh-ex]

Do we have an SK, and some kills were stopped?

Mafia died Night 2 and you, the Vig claim, claimed not to have killed him. That means we have another Vig (very improbable), SK or it's a multiball setup. It's my first game outside Newbie Games here so I'm not sure what makes more sense, multiball or a Serial Killer. Since no one has mentioned multiball so far, I'm going to go with a Serial Killer.

I'll repeat myself - from what I read on wiki, SKs are often Bulletproof/X-shot Bulletproof. That could explain the missing kills. Another explanation will be that 2 people targetted the same person but it would have to happen twice in a row.

Now, tactical question: Assuming it's 4v2v1 (I think the general consensus was that we started with 9v3v1), do we want to lynch Mafia or SK?

1. If we lynch Mafia, we go to 4v1v1 at Night. At this point, the most likely outcomes are 3v1 (which is great, given our current situation) or 2v1v1 (which would be horrible as the game is out of our hands).
2. If we lynch SK, we go to 4v2 at Night. Unless we have some kill stopping role, we go to 3v2. And even if we do, we can't count on stopping the kill. This puts at LyLo twice in a row.

At first glance it seems that lynching Mafia is a high risk high reward scenario but how the game goes depends largely on nightkills. Lynching SK puts us in double LyLo but we know we won't autolose at Night.

[F-oh-ex]

Legit

We might mot have a vig

Have an sk and you are scum pretending to be a vig

We have a SK, regardless of whether DGB is a Vig or not.

[F-oh-ex]

Not sure I really have time for this game. If I can't make time to read and post in the next couple days, I will request replacement. In the middle of buying a house (among other things), so my time has been severely crunched.

Congratulations PJ!!! That's really awesome. Also you're conftown, thanks.

Quick skim through DGB's ISO and I found this. I haven't read it meticulously yet but by Ctrl + F-ing I haven't found DGB scumreading PJ after that. PJ scumread DGB whole time and voted him, though. As of now, I don't see why DGB would shoot PJ as Vig.