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[Mimikyu]

1) Did I say I hated them?

2) I did look at them, saw a couple comments from each, but obviously limited post counts which indicated lurking to me (clearly wrong on the Sonia one).

3) This only works if I'm terrible terrible noobscum, which A) I'm not a noob and B) I'm not scum.

1) This is what you said:

Hey why don't we hate MariaR or Tiershift more?

That's close enough.

2) And blindly pushing lurkers as scum, when so much else has happened, is scummy.

3) I assume you'll understand if I don't just take your word for it?

1) Not really. Goal was to get other people thinking about some lurkers, since scum would have an especially easy time lurking in this game with all the walling back and forth.

2) See 1). We can focus on all of the walling when all of the scum could possibly be contained in individuals with 15 posts or less.

3) Nope

Clearly you see that lurkers are problematic because 2/3 of your scum are borderline lurkers.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I'm gonna enjoy lynching Ved

[Vedith]

Blackstar feels scummy but i fosed him instantly in our game and he was town lol.

Explain this to me.
Are you saying that you don't want to look at Blackstar for being scum here because he was town in the last game?
How many games have you had with him?

I mean, this is pretty bad.

BlackStar: do people (not just me) tend to fos you a lot (every single time you post)?

[Vedith]

I'm gonna enjoy lynching Ved

Sit down, let the adults talk.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I'm gonna enjoy lynching Ved

Sit down, let the adults talk.

Why are you here again?

[Vedith]

Why are you here again?

Probably because town aren't too smart right now.
Feel free to posting useless shit while I wait for Trans to log on.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

Why are you here again?

Probably because town aren't too smart right now.
Feel free to posting useless shit while I wait for Trans to log on.

How's it like to know you replaced into a slot where all 3 of your partners were already found out must fucking suck huh?

[Vedith]

How's it like to know you replaced into a slot where all 3 of your partners were already found out must fucking suck huh?

Pretty spooky.
Easy games like that are fun, eh?

[BlackStar]

1) Did I say I hated them?

2) I did look at them, saw a couple comments from each, but obviously limited post counts which indicated lurking to me (clearly wrong on the Sonia one).

3) This only works if I'm terrible terrible noobscum, which A) I'm not a noob and B) I'm not scum.

1) This is what you said:

Hey why don't we hate MariaR or Tiershift more?

That's close enough.

2) And blindly pushing lurkers as scum, when so much else has happened, is scummy.

3) I assume you'll understand if I don't just take your word for it?

1) Not really. Goal was to get other people thinking about some lurkers, since scum would have an especially easy time lurking in this game with all the walling back and forth.

2) See 1). We can focus on all of the walling when all of

the scum could possibly be contained in individuals with 15 posts or less.

3) Nope

Clearly you see that lurkers are problematic because 2/3 of your scum are borderline lurkers.

Do you think this is the case?

[BlackStar]

He thinks that the wagon is suspicious for forming quickly even though it had a justifiable reason for forming: someone being caught in a lie

lol what? You're assuming that I think that contradictions are just inherently scummy, which I don't. It depends on the person making the contradictions. I've said that n00b town are more prone to making contradictions and plus, the one that Snake made was so minor that a speed wagon like that is suspect. If contradictions were just plain scummy, I'd be voting Zyf right now whose made a couple himself, but I'm not. Also, apparently, using your logic, Zyf is scum right alongside me because he's denied making contradictions aswell by saying he was "exaggerating." I find it hard to believe you think Zyf and I are both scum.

His logic is ripped apart here and instead of acknowledging that, he weakly tries to keep justifying what he said.

Ripped apart? lmfao. How was my logic ripped apart? Mimi said that it wasn't impossible for a n00b town to come and try to show it off, only that he hadn't seen it himself. Apparently anecdotal experiences are enough to rip logic apart?

He said he wasn't defending a contradiction in one post, and then in all the posts after that he admits that Eagersnake contradicted himself but still tries to say that the contradiction wasn't scummy. We all know that he'd been defending eager, but he keeps denying it and it looks to me like he wants to distance himself from eager.

The amount of convolution here is real. If I was trying to distance myself from my scum partner, that means I would have voted him outright with some lame excuse instead of questioning his wagon. Questioning his wagon WHEN NO ELSE WAS will make it almost impossible for people to not scumread him and I together. Apparently, according to you, I would reveal myself and my scum partner just a couple pages into a game. Yeah....no.

Weak ATE

Weren't you the one that said that you get ML'd as town aswell?

If you don't think he's town, why have you been questioning his wagon? Why have you been protecting him all this time?

Oh, the semantics are real with this one. I don't think he's ONE HUNDERED percent town. Do I really have to point that out? His contradiction itself isn't enough for me to scum read him, but he also hasn't done anything to this point that would make me say he's town OUTRIGHT. A slight(and I mean slight) town read comes from me thinking he's a n00b town who contradicted himself. His replace post indicates to me that my feelings are not unfounded.

Another contradiction

That wasn't a contradiction. I was saying that I agree you could probably solve the game from my lynch by looking at the shitty reasoning for the votes on me(slight trolling), not that I agree wholeheartedly to my own lynch. Reach more please.

Anything else?

UNVOTE:

[Mimikyu]

2) See 1). We can focus on all of the walling when all of

the scum could possibly be contained in individuals with 15 posts or less.

3) Nope

Clearly you see that lurkers are problematic because 2/3 of your scum are borderline lurkers.

Do you think this is the case?

Likely not, but the point that we shouldn't focus on lurkers because "there is plenty to talk about" is silly because it's possible that all we are talking about is a bunch of townies.

[Vedith]

Likely not, but the point that we shouldn't focus on lurkers because "there is plenty to talk about" is silly because it's possible that all we are talking about is a bunch of townies.

Doesn't that touch borderline policy lynch.
Surely it's the fake content or lack of it with posting you want to look for.

[Mimikyu]

Likely not, but the point that we shouldn't focus on lurkers because "there is plenty to talk about" is silly because it's possible that all we are talking about is a bunch of townies.

Doesn't that touch borderline policy lynch.
Surely it's the fake content or lack of it with posting you want to look for.

Nope not at all.

In no way have I ever advocated for lynching one of the lurkers

instead

of one of the actives. I have and will continue to advocate for us not

ignoring

the lurkers just because there may be other talkative people available, because the fact is that it's

possible

that everyone super-active is town.

[Vedith]

Nope not at all.

In no way have I ever advocated for lynching one of the lurkers instead of one of the actives. I have and will continue to advocate for us not ignoring the lurkers just because there may be other talkative people available, because the fact is that it's possible that everyone super-active is town.

Plausible, just not probably.
Define active in your eyes. Not being prodded, 10 posts a day? Can these posts be "Yeah this person is scum" with nothing else?
This is why I dislike the 'lets kill all lurkers'.
It's an opportunity place for scum to join, it's an easy way out.
That said - putting high pressure on lurkers I do like.

[Mimikyu]

Nope not at all.

In no way have I ever advocated for lynching one of the lurkers instead of one of the actives. I have and will continue to advocate for us not ignoring the lurkers just because there may be other talkative people available, because the fact is that it's possible that everyone super-active is town.

Plausible, just not probably.
Define active in your eyes. Not being prodded, 10 posts a day? Can these posts be "Yeah this person is scum" with nothing else?
This is why I dislike the 'lets kill all lurkers'.
It's an opportunity place for scum to join, it's an easy way out.
That said - putting high pressure on lurkers I do like.

Agree 100% that 'let's kill all lurkers' is bad. My goal in my statement was to place pressure on the lurkers.

There are no hard lines, but tends to be relatively infrequent posting coupled with empty posts.

[Vedith]

Agree 100% that 'let's kill all lurkers' is bad. My goal in my statement was to place pressure on the lurkers.

There are no hard lines, but tends to be relatively infrequent posting coupled with empty posts.

Well at least we can agree that empty posts count to lurking.
I haven't checked your ISO yet, who are your reads?

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I'd love some examples of "empty posts" btw

[Vedith]

I'd love some examples of "empty posts" btw

I mean... I'm not sure to take you seriously or not.
If you don't know what an empty post is, go play in the corner and I'll shout you over for the next one.

[Mimikyu]

Agree 100% that 'let's kill all lurkers' is bad. My goal in my statement was to place pressure on the lurkers.

There are no hard lines, but tends to be relatively infrequent posting coupled with empty posts.

Well at least we can agree that empty posts count to lurking.
I haven't checked your ISO yet, who are your reads?

I don't love doing whole formal reads lists at this point necessarily, but I will say I feel like Saru, Blackstar, and Transcend are all town. Xkfyu is probably scum. On the fence on Sonia. Zyf could easily be scum. To be honest don't have a good read one way or the other at this point. Seems like one of algebra/Tiershift are scum. Obviously eagerSnake had a bad intro, but it feels like it may have just been overeager town, especially since I've liked your play since then for the most part.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I'd love some examples of "empty posts" btw

I mean... I'm not sure to take you seriously or not.
If you don't know what an empty post is, go play in the corner and I'll shout you over for the next one.

There are 2 types of empty posts what is one to you?

[Vedith]

and Transcend are all town

Talk to me about Trans.
Originally I thought that Trans was just having the louder players as town, then I noticed that Trans is likes xkfyu as scum, so that case was out of the window.
I don't like her early game she distances for blackstar looking scum, but doesn't have any intention on following her read apart from referring to a previous game.

With Tieshift, do you agree with Xkfyu's comment? 784
Also with algebra, do you think his post has any backing?

You also like Xkfyu as scum, do you think he's bussing his team mates? His vote went from Tieshift to algebra and I feel that the only decent scum read he had was the Mimi out of the 3.

[gerryoat]

Lol at you guys posting like 5 pages worth at 9 am.

[xSoniaNevermindx]

I don't like

her

early game

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[xSoniaNevermindx]

MY SIDES THEY HURT

[Vedith]

There are 2 types of empty posts what is one to you?

801
Here's a prime example. Don't think at all it's because it's against me, but it's actually from having nothing. This comment doesn't help town at all. If you're scum, of course you are going to be holding your scum view on my slot, if you're town, you aren't looking to progress the game. Keep in mind this is an example, and I've read you already.

I've seen your posts, I don't think it's scum sided, however, I think you are getting lazy as town as the day goes. You feel comfortable with not looking for "my buddies" but instead happy to leave you vote on what you expect to flip scum.
Wanted to clear that up before the "OMGAWD you scum read me with no vote".

When you feel ready to look for my "buddies" let me know and we can discuss.