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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:27 am

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Wing your case on smith is basically paralleled with mine. It's just my case on Rosske is about 10x heavier.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:27 am

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From my pov.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:39 am

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Smith, I've just realized you've been fairly neutral for today. Like you voted me for a bit and that was just for a bit. You haven't really finalized your reads from what i see. We are approaching deadline so i wanna know from you if you had to take 3 shots at one duck in this game, what would they be?
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:40 am

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Also giga: does the fact that two ducks (me and wing) that you wouldn't shoot at all game town read tenshii change your mind?
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:41 am

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In post 2003, Transcend wrote:Also giga: does the fact that two ducks (me and wing) that you wouldn't shoot at all game town read tenshii change your mind?
Not particularly, no. Townies can and do read people wrong.
i no longer strictly go by they/them and honestly prefer she/her but they/them's fine if you're used to it i guess

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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:42 am

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In post 2000, Transcend wrote:Wing your case on smith is basically paralleled with mine. It's just my case on Rosske is about 10x heavier.
I'm
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not seeing Rosske make that nightkill but mhsmith's predecessor pushing KTS while having Karnos as a secondary read and ignoring that wagon just seals it for me not to mention mhsmith's case/vote against Karnos is exactly what I would expect from a scum-him at that point.

Compromise with me today? Haven't felt this good about a scumread since replacing into the game and I think your gut on mhsmith is pretty accurate. You just got distracted with Rosske and his cross-tunneling of you.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:43 am

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I mean fair enough. Why is our judgment wrong though. Do you not think his tone/posts are genuine? I'm trying to understand where your read on him is coming from.
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 2005, Wingback wrote:
In post 2000, Transcend wrote:Wing your case on smith is basically paralleled with mine. It's just my case on Rosske is about 10x heavier.
I'm
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not seeing Rosske make that nightkill but mhsmith's predecessor pushing KTS while having Karnos as a secondary read and ignoring that wagon just seals it for me not to mention mhsmith's case/vote against Karnos is exactly what I would expect from a scum-him at that point.

Compromise with me today? Haven't felt this good about a scumread since replacing into the game and I think your gut on mhsmith is pretty accurate. You just got distracted with Rosske and his cross-tunneling of you.
1. 2000th post :P

2. Like i said im an advocate and I'd compromise, but not if I'm able to get Rosske rope. I just haven't agreed with any of the points made to support R!town
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:48 am

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But you might be able to Burger King it and have it your way.
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:49 am

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Mod: I need to replace out. Sorry for any inconvenience, it was fun playing with everyone.
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:51 am

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awww, Rosske :(

digging through mhsmith's iso because i swear there's something i wanted to comment on that i forgot about
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:51 am

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I have work today in just a bit, but giga, me and wing will not lynch tenshii and Tenshii won't lynch himself. So only way you CAN get that lynch is with Rosske and mhsmith's votes. Two of your best town reads (me/wing) after several days of analyzing have concluded that one of those two is the duck we need shot. You can deviate from our reads, but I'm feeling very confident about one of those two most likely r.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:52 am

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No offense but please lynch the slot lol don't replace. This is probably a tactical replace out.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:54 am

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In post 2012, Transcend wrote:No offense but please lynch the slot lol don't replace. This is probably a tactical replace out.
???? dude that's low

but yes i would be willing to compromise on smith, it might not even be a compromise if i remember whatever it is that is irking me
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 am

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Don't care he's my best scum read, I've made a solid case on him. He's neglected to respond. In my eyes this is a tactical replace out.
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:57 am

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A tactical replace out in this situation would be disgusting. I'm choosing to believe it's NAI by rosske.
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:59 am

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In post 807, mhsmith0 wrote::D

Last one probably just Luna or kts with the strategic hop onto the wagon (wolves usually can't resist bussing).

VOTE: killthestory
i don't think this is the thing that's been irking me but mhsmith can you walk me through what made you feel better about Luna?
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:02 am

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It's tactical imo. And stop ignoring my questions or I'll advocate the slot getting replaced and lynch you instead.
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:22 am

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@trans: I'll talk more about rosske tonight.

@gig: Wrt luna, my recollection was her postings and engagement improved. For instance her early d2 rosske stuff looked natural and like she was actively working to clear townies, which in that spot isn't really how I'd expect a wolf to act. I can probably re-read and find more specific stuff if you're really curious about my read of her in particular.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:54 am

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In post 2009, Rosske wrote:
Mod: I need to replace out. Sorry for any inconvenience, it was fun playing with everyone.
Dear gawd, thank you.
In post 2014, Transcend wrote:Don't care he's my best scum read, I've made a solid case on him. He's neglected to respond. In my eyes this is a tactical replace out.
If you honestly think that report him to a mod because that's a breaking of site rules.
I don't need to see silliness like that presented as a case.
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:58 am

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Actually...
@mod: please clarify your policy on the deadline given the replacement
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:03 pm

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Can't declare it as tactical until i see his flip.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:44 pm

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In post 2021, Transcend wrote:Can't declare it as tactical until i see his flip.
okay, so we agree it has no place in any conversation unless and until you see the flip.
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:46 pm

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VOTE: mhsmith0

The only thing I don't really agree with is how Karnos challenged kcdaspot. I don't really get why Karnos would attack his own partner like that. Other than that, everything adds up. kcdaspot's reaction to Karnos challenging him was pretty bad too imo. kcdaspot responded late (idk if that's necessarily indicative though) and had a poor reason of needing an updated vote count when it (i think) was pretty obvious that Karnos had way more momentum to get lynched.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:51 pm

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In post 1631, mhsmith0 wrote:It's still really weird I think that karnos never bothered making a meaningful survival move onto a different wagon, like Thor or PC, when there was reasonable chance to justify it. I guess he was trying to imitate townie stubbornness but it really didn't work.

It's also pretty annoying that we don't get VC's in order of voting, so it's kinda hard to unpack that way. I may try and pull one together that orders votes, but probably not ASAP.
Also this post initially rubbed me off the wrong way when I first saw it but it kinda makes sense now. mhsmith0 was trying to do an indirect attack on Thor. I think mhsmith0 would've pushed this harder as town. I don't understand why town!mhsmith0 brings it up like that without any followup.
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