Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[MariaR]

I pride myself in my scum game on this site and I will say it over and over I would never get lynched day 1 as scum *puffs out chest*

[JarJarDrinks]

I wouldn't let myself get roped day 1 as scum I'd pull out all the stops but I'm not doing that for obv reason.

Reasons aren't obvious to me. "cuz it's cheap" isn't a reason.

[MariaR]

I wouldn't let myself get roped day 1 as scum I'd pull out all the stops but I'm not doing that for obv reason.

Reasons aren't obvious to me. "cuz it's cheap" isn't a reason.

Cheap as in the way I get a townread I don't really like because people say I ate to much to the point where it's unenjoyable or I dumbtell and ask stupid questions that's not how I wanna get tr as scum and I've done it before.

[Elyse]

@elyse
my point is her ate here is not helping her. its clearly backfiing on her
so stop with the "calulated" shit

Since when does calculated mean good?

[MariaR]

If i'm scum I wanna win by outplaying people with my reads and cases on people not ate and dumbtell

[Thor665]

It's apparently because she finds it "cheap"...

Yeah, but that's silly.

Here's a question:

Why does everyone have to explain every damn action they take this game.

They don't and no one is asking them to, some people are asking Maria about a very small amount of very specific actions - any other straw men to discuss?

Yes Thor I don't want to do those things to get them to townread me cause I feel like it's CHEAP if that makes you scumread me oh well

What is CHEAP about acting like a town player to people when you're town?
If that's CHEAP then isn't it even more CHEAP as scum?
I, personally, don't believe you have this capability.
Want to prove me wrong and act super town?
and....go!

I know Transcend better then any of you at this table you guys may not be able to meta read him but I can and I strongly strongly believe he is town.

I understand that you strongly townread him - you have made that very clear.
I asked specific questions about that townread and his reaction to it - could you try answering them now?

but laziness is generally NAI. does it deserve a policy lynch? sure, i suppose so. does it deserve to be hard scumread? absolutely not.

Same difference at the end of the day, you vote them, you lynch them, they flip - so I don't get the issue of debating about the specific word used.

@elyse
my point is her ate here is not helping her. its clearly backfiing on her
so stop with the "calulated" Smurf

I would note that the AtE specifically worked on JarJar and she town read him for it, which is perfectly within the sphere of AtE.
Who would you say is causing the AtE to "backfire" on her? (the only name I have for that list is Elyse, I noted it as scummy but was already voting her so it's a neutral break with me)
I don't see that happening at all, what are you seeing?

[MariaR]

@elyse
my point is her ate here is not helping her. its clearly backfiing on her
so stop with the "calulated" shit

Since when does calculated mean good?

if I was scum I would be capslock raging and self voting saying lynch me atm

[MariaR]

I think the reason he didn't go like "YOU CAN'T META ME"
Is because he knows I'm one of the only people who can meta read him

[MariaR]

I've explained my entire thought process to all of you and that I don't like getting tr by acting dumb or by getting tr by my ate even if I do it a lot I have said everything I could possibly say and I don't know what else you want I don't really have much to say at this point if you still scumread me and you're town I'm sorry I couldn't convince you

[Thor665]

Okay, that was the first part of the question, let's revisit the second part; can you explain the meta that you saw that enabled you to meta read him? (I'm asking this kind of tongue in cheek because I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but I'm obligated to ask anyway)

[Thor665]

I'm sorry I couldn't convince you

No you're not, because you refused to use your super secret power CHEAP town read skills.
SO actually you're trying to intentionally play a less effective town game than you're capable of - so if we lynch you, it's your fault

[MariaR]

Okay, that was the first part of the question, let's revisit the second part; can you explain the meta that you saw that enabled you to meta read him? (I'm asking this kind of tongue in cheek because I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but I'm obligated to ask anyway)

Are you asking me what this meta is that he normally does as town

[MariaR]

I'm sorry I couldn't convince you

No you're not, because you refused to use your super secret power CHEAP town read skills.
SO actually you're trying to intentionally play a less effective town game than you're capable of - so if we lynch you, it's your fault

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

[Thor665]

Yes, I am asking you to describe the meta, so I can see your thought process and perhaps share your town read on the slot, as that would be helpful for me to sort both you and him.
It's a crazy habit I have when playing - weird, i know, but it works for me.

[Thor665]

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

I wouldn't feel proud playing beneath my skill level - but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

[MariaR]

Yes, I am asking you to describe the meta, so I can see your thought process and perhaps share your town read on the slot, as that would be helpful for me to sort both you and him.
It's a crazy habit I have when playing - weird, i know, but it works for me.

I'll explain the parts that I can he gets upset quite easy as town and does a lot of suboptimal stuff doing stuff that only transcend wants he's more likely to appeal to the town's needs as mafia I also think a big part of it is his non caring tone


Another part of it is having this vibe where you just know by the way they post and how things are going like "yup they're town with me" it's weird but true!

[MariaR]

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

I wouldn't feel proud playing beneath my skill level - but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

You'd do anything you could do to win even if it could make the game unenjoyable for the people you're playing with? I won't judge but you do you

[Transcend]

ooo

[Nero Cain]

What are your thoughts on elyse?

meh. POE town.

What makes transcend scum? Bc I'm not seeing it

He's being friendly and Glib and according to Thor his meta town read from Maria was not his normal reaction.

I think he's upset I beat him

lol no. Of the scum you played the best but Michel, Ira and Zap basically carried the scumteam. I kinda thing you are POE town but your play has been so bad that I wouldn't care if you hung hence acceptable policy lynch.

Don't try to meta read me I change a lot of my gameplay going into each game even if I like your reasoning ^_^

What do you think of Kransa meta town reading you?

SPELL MY FUCKING NAME RIGHT PEOPLE

sorry about that.

SCUM.

better?

[Thor665]

It's a crazy habit I have when playing - weird, i know, but it works for me.

I'll explain the parts that I can he gets upset quite easy as town and does a lot of suboptimal stuff doing stuff that only transcend wants he's more likely to appeal to the town's needs as mafia I also think a big part of it is his non caring tone [/quote]
How has he particularly done any of this so far this game?

He hasn't made any suboptimal plays moreso than half the rest of the game.
He hasn't got upset beyond *maybe* the push on you as a scumread, and that came after your meta read of him.
I haven't particularly got a "don't care" vibe from him, and even if I squinted and decided it was there it appears to come after your read on him.

Am I just totally blowing this?

[MariaR]

I can careless about her meta tr on me as I agree with her sr and reasoning so I think she's town because of it

So you're just voting me because my play is bad to you and nothing else you don't even sr me dear god Nero I thought you were better then this

[kraska77]

@elyse
my point is her ate here is not helping her. its clearly backfiing on her
so stop with the "calulated" Smurf

I would note that the AtE specifically worked on JarJar and she town read him for it, which is perfectly within the sphere of AtE.
Who would you say is causing the AtE to "backfire" on her? (the only name I have for that list is Elyse, I noted it as scummy but was already voting her so it's a neutral break with me)
I don't see that happening at all, what are you seeing?

im mostly talking about her unprovoked early claim

[Thor665]

I'll explain the parts that I can he gets upset quite easy as town and does a lot of suboptimal stuff doing stuff that only transcend wants he's more likely to appeal to the town's needs as mafia I also think a big part of it is his non caring tone

How has he particularly done any of this so far this game?

He hasn't made any suboptimal plays moreso than half the rest of the game.
He hasn't got upset beyond *maybe* the push on you as a scumread, and that came after your meta read of him.
I haven't particularly got a "don't care" vibe from him, and even if I squinted and decided it was there it appears to come after your read on him.

Am I just totally blowing this?

[Transcend]

ten bucks your vote on me is confbias

[JarJarDrinks]

I suppose you're right I'd rather lose and be proud of the game I played then feel bad and win

I wouldn't feel proud playing beneath my skill level - but whatever floats your boat I suppose.

You'd do anything you could do to win even if it could make the game unenjoyable for the people you're playing with? I won't judge but you do you

Huh? Aren't you telling us that this is EXACTLY HOW YOU PLAY AS SCUM?