Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

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As of right now I'm up for lynching in any of the following

Shadow_step

karnos

MichelSableheart

kraska77

whoaaaa weeeeeeeee have you visited heaven recently? it appears you've been touched by an angel, my good sir.

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Elyse was either drunk or crumbed not sure which

[MichelSableheart]

Posts #14 and #16 were made during AVS, with the intention to get discussion started.

So your defense here is that you were just making up a reason vote and get the game started and you weren't really scumreading Blitz?

Almost. I think that voting without giving reasoning is better for scum then for town, as it does nothing to get discussion started. This made Blitz slightly more likely to be scum, but the difference was marginal. If the other players had a 3 in 12 chance (0.25) of being scum, I felt her chance of being scum was something like 0.2505. Marginally higher, not strong at all, but if I have to vote during AVS to get discussion started anyway, I might as well vote for something that might be indicative of scum.

As for why I didn't say "oh hey I wanted to start the game"? Doing so would have shut down the discussion we had going. Besides, I felt that my focus on getting discussion started in #53 and #87 made it obvious.

Elyse was either drunk or crumbed not sure which

I see very good reasons why scum Transcend who has a good chance of being lynched would make this post. But I see no reason why a pro-town player would want to point out crumbs by others.

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if they were crumbs they're obvious crumbs anyways

[gerryoat]

gerryoat not having any strong scum reads after like 30 pages shows shades of his scum play last game.

if i was maf, i would be trying harder lol. plus, i wouldn't do the same strategy, especially since in this game there is at least 6 people with meta on me now

[gerryoat]

god, i hate day 1 in forum mafia. it's such a clusterfuck. And I can never get reads until one person is lynched. Someone mentor me in better day 1s as town and what to look for.

[Thor665]

If I was ego tunneling I'd be prob voting you I'm not ego tunneling. You don't get the same deal with Elyse because I get the nagging feeling they're not partners and my sr on her was for 2 posts while the rest of her game has been fine

What did Karnos do to basically put you at 100% scum read on him?

[Thor665]

god, i hate day 1 in forum mafia. it's such a clusterfuck. And I can never get reads until one person is lynched. Someone mentor me in better day 1s as town and what to look for.

Personally I think you just try to force interactions and reactions - then you lynch someone.

[MariaR]

Okay.

I think Elyse and Michel are town. Elyse especially has come to about the same conclusion as me in 623

I'd vote transcend now if it was another player in the slot posting like he is, but... maybe this is just town transcend acting like transcend always acts, not voting him yet.

fakedit: I voted gerry because there was no reason to claim, it was obviously not an accidental claim. It might have been a harmless joking post, but we were way past RVS at that point and I didn't see any towbn motivation to start BS posting again.

Maybe we should just lynch transcend, because he is going to be lynchbait in lylo if he lives that long, and I don't scum killing him.

Gonna get on my comp in a sec cause y'all are pissing me off for now

VOTE: karnos

chainsaw?

Lets make it real.

VOTE: transcend

if we have a vig shoot Karnos please and if he flips green I'll self vote there is 100% mafia in Elyse/Karnos look at this back pedal

Okay Thor, I'll vote MariaR.

Get her to L-1 and I will hammer.

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karnos is probably town he absolutely cranked me in one completed game as mafia this doesn't resemble his mafia play at all. like if he's putting on an act then wp but i think he's being genuine.

[MariaR]

Can't make up his mind with the fence sit acting like he was really thinking and then just gives a very weak reason to vote behind it and instead of voting me himself he has to wait until he can hammer me?
I can go more in depth on this if I really need to but atm I'm eating

[MariaR]

karnos is probably town he absolutely cranked me in one completed game as mafia this doesn't resemble his mafia play at all. like if he's putting on an act then wp but i think he's being genuine.

You're wrong.

[MariaR]

god, i hate day 1 in forum mafia. it's such a clusterfuck. And I can never get reads until one person is lynched. Someone mentor me in better day 1s as town and what to look for.

And Gerry is prob town fml

[Thor665]

@Maria - So, basically, the OMGUS?
I don't get what's pro scum with the hammer comment I don't get what's pro town with it either, but I fail to see how that adds to a scum case beyond the flop on you after you attacked him.

[Thor665]

And Gerry is prob town fml

[Transcend]

am i wrong tho? i sincerely think he's just scummy town. like why the fuck would scum post what he posted...

[MariaR]

@Maria - So, basically, the OMGUS?
I don't get what's pro scum with the hammer comment I don't get what's pro town with it either, but I fail to see how that adds to a scum case beyond the flop on you after you attacked him.

Na I don't really understand his thinking it seems quite forced and rapid like he wants to give off the impression he's in a conflict and that's what he did in the first few posts but then it changed so randomly I just don't see how you get to this thinking the omgus has nothing to do with it if he voted anyone that way it would have ringed bells

[MariaR]

am i wrong tho? i sincerely think he's just scummy town. like why the fuck would scum post what he posted...

You're wrong.

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sure of it???

[MariaR]

sure of it???

pretty sure.

[Transcend]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i wanna trust you

but i also wanna trust me

i might end up trusting me

[MariaR]

[Thor665]

@Maria - So, basically, the OMGUS?
I don't get what's pro scum with the hammer comment I don't get what's pro town with it either, but I fail to see how that adds to a scum case beyond the flop on you after you attacked him.

Na I don't really understand his thinking it seems quite forced and rapid like he wants to give off the impression he's in a conflict and that's what he did in the first few posts but then it changed so randomly I just don't see how you get to this thinking the omgus has nothing to do with it if he voted anyone that way it would have ringed bells

I actually said the OMGUS had everything to do with it.
Have you ever played with Karnos before? Good logic is not his long suite - but he's not spewing utter dreck like I've seen him do as scum.

sure of it???

pretty sure.

You're volunteering for death if he flips town - I thought that was assured sure.

[kraska77]

hi
nero the nobrainer posts i made elsewhere dont take time or effort, decent catch up does tho
im going to try and explain the thought process behind everything ive posted so far

first...my "both wagons suck" post...i'll start with michel

michel's entrance comes off as gauche and robotic...like i said before reminds me of iraoanavp or LQ. regardless of his alignment, players like that are easy pickings for surface level scumhunting. that's why his wagon sucked. because anyone can keep pointing out theyre shifty, that doesnt tell me much about the people pointing fingers...especially not when majority of the active playerlist was onto them early in the game. his wagon sucked because it doesnt prompt more complex interactions. thats why i dont want him lynched or wagoned today. bc if he's town, his wagon will be easy copout from actual scumhunting, and if he's scum, associations are still a better way to peg him. either way, lynching him means we go on to day 2 with minimum info

[kraska77]

made elsewhere yesterday*