Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[Nero Cain]

IF

Giga and Maria had not moved their votes from you there would have been a nice 4 man wagon on you. Its my

feeling

that the wagon on Maria picked up after I voted you.

[Nero Cain]

Give me some reads Shadow.

[Nero Cain]

Give me some reads Shadow.

[Shadow_step]

I'll get into details later but pretty sure Elyse and Kraska are town.
Gerry and Karnos are strong scum leans.

[Nero Cain]

Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?

Can you remind me why you asked this.

[Shadow_step]

IF

Giga and Maria had not moved their votes from you there would have been a nice 4 man wagon on you. Its my

feeling

that the wagon on Maria picked up after I voted you.

I think your logic is flawed and you are confbiasing. Or scum and keeping a scum read on me is convenient.

[Shadow_step]

Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?

Can you remind me why you asked this.

Because I didn't know what is considered normal in normal games. From what I've seen on this site the masons had night talk only. Maria and Transcend mentioned talking in their mason PT. So I found that odd.

[Nero Cain]

*shrugz* I just see very little hunting from you and I disagree with Kranksa that this is your same game from open 629 or whatever.

Why should I think you are town?

[Nero Cain]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

[chilledtea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 2.02

Shadow_step (L-2) : Nero Cain, Thor665, JarJarDrinks, gigabyteTroubadour.

Blitzkrieg (L-5) : kraska77.

gigabyteTroubadour (L-5) : Blitzkrieg.

Not Voting (5) : Shadow_step, Elyse, gerryoat, karnos, MichelSableheart.

Day will end in (expired on 2016-09-23 00:00:00)

[kraska77]

ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious

What epiphany did you get

[Thor665]

how are we at L-2 already lol. I mean, shadow hasn't really dne much but tunnel me for no reason but. That was kinda fast, it's a bit scary.

I'll get into details later but pretty sure Elyse and Kraska are town.
Gerry and Karnos are strong scum leans.

Why not vote one of them?

[MichelSableheart]

@thor: I spent a large part of yesterday trying to convince you that transcend/giga is scum, but didn't manage to convince you. Yet I still haven't got a clear idea where your townread on the slot is coming from. Could you try to convince me, please?

@Michel your top three town reads please.

I only have two strong townreads at the moment.

The first is Thor, who I can only see as scum if giga is (one of) his scumpartner(s). If giga is town, there was no reason for thor scum to block that lynch and risk a compromise wagon on one of his teammates.

The other is JJD. I've seen him make some solid remarks, bringing up good points, and found myself if not agreeing, then at least understanding his points.

My other townreads are a lot weaker then that. If I'm forced to pick a third though, I would probably say Elyse, because the poor wagon on her at the end of day 1 felt scum driven.

stop trying to delay Shadows claim. :/

Why are you so incredibly pushy for claims? As town, there's no particular need to know. It's mafia that want to see claims outed, as it helps them eliminate the dangerous powerroles.

With a that lurking they are doing you'll be waiting a long time. :/

Fuck off, go and check what lurking means. I live in a different timezone.

So? It's the quality of your posts that's atrocious. You're giving us virtually no reads, and no explanation for the reads you're giving us. You seem to intentionally make it difficult for anyone to read you based on your posts. You're not contributing anything despite posting regularly. That's the definition of lurking to me.

FoS: Shadow_step

Don't want to put him in hammerrange at the moment with players like Karnos around, but I do support this wagon.

[Thor665]

@thor: I spent a large part of yesterday trying to convince you that transcend/giga is scum, but didn't manage to convince you. Yet I still haven't got a clear idea where your townread on the slot is coming from. Could you try to convince me, please?

My town read is based off gut and lack of seeing anything scummy coming from the slot.

[JarJarDrinks]

With a that lurking they are doing you'll be waiting a long time. :/

Fuck off, go and check what lurking means. I live in a different timezone.

Yeah, what ur doing is the definition of lurking. I don't care what timezone ur in. The few posts that you are making are filled w/ zero content.

You're:

- barely pushing the few scumreads you have
- not letting anyone know what ur other reads are
- not trying to scumhunt even a little bit

[JarJarDrinks]

And yeah I agree w/ people that karnos is probably shadows scumbuddy

First off, the quickhammer looks bad for reasons already stated.

And like, shadow has given us 2 scumreads: gerry and karnos. But all he's really done is push gerry. He threw a shitty vote @ karnos that never materialized but other then that, hasn't pushed that read at all.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious

What epiphany did you get

nero should i tell kraska and michel what's going on or do u think elyse will catch on and l-1 shadow...?

(maybe i'm utterly wrong but i think i get what's happening)

[JarJarDrinks]

Yeah, after forther review I see no reason to move my vote. Shadow_step increases in scum level by 50dkp, but transcend's slot is still scummy after the replace.

Sorry, the fake masonry is a big deal. It wasn't an obvious joke and it had a lot of potentially to seriously hurt town via real mason CC or by reading Maria wrong.

Makes sure to let us know he's scumreading shadow even though he's not voting there.

[kraska77]

ever walk away from a game for 2 hours and then realize u miss something really obvious

What epiphany did you get

nero should i tell kraska and michel what's going on or do u think elyse will catch on and l-1 shadow...?

(maybe i'm utterly wrong but i think i get what's happening)

What...
I feel dumb =(

[JarJarDrinks]

Reads.

Shadow_step lurks a lot. voted me. probably scum because

I am biased

.
Thor665 logical player, hard to read.
Elyse seems towny, came to mostly same conclusions as me regarding transcends silly gambits.
gerryoat seems scummy, but might just be the EM play style shining through. unsure.
gigabyteTroubadour I miss the crying in spansish avatar. probably scum.
karnos I'm very town.
JarJarDrinks could jarjar secretly be the sith lord? probably not.
Nero Cain this seems to be some old player everyone respects. i don't like his reads so far.
I Am Innocent obviously town, his name isn't "i am guilty"
MichelSableheart awkward town, which some players read as scum. hope he gives some good insight before he gets misslynched
MariaR wildcard, fair chance of flipping scum but

not my top vote for the day

kraska77 haven't read enough of her posts to say
Blitzkrieg "

2 scummy things:

- Obviously quickhammering someone who's not his top vote of the day once it looks like shadow (who he's scumreading) might get roped instead.

- And again he tells us shadow is a scumread. BUT he lets people know that he may be biased so THEY probably shouldn't be scumreading him

[JarJarDrinks]

I have no clue what giga is saying either. But it looks towny.

[JarJarDrinks]

Nero, thor, giga are all strong townreads rn

[JarJarDrinks]

And the following are all townleans: Elyse, gerry, Michel, kraska

[JarJarDrinks]

which leaves shadow/karnos/blitz as the scumteam

[karnos]

Is masons having daytalk considered normal in "normal" games ?

Can you remind me why you asked this.

I think nero must be scum. This is the stupidest question I've ever seen anyone ask on mafiascum.net, no exception.