Open 646 - Semi Nightless - Game Over (D6)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: Transcend I think the mod just listed scum first.

is kankies the kind of scummer who rvss his partner...? lmao is this even worth metaing?

(i'm starting a phone reread)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i haven't found a recent game where Krinkles votes for his partner during RVS

so, it's irrelevant

[Transcend]

God you quoted karnos' vote and i had a heart attack.

Good answers.

Smith when you can i want my questions answered.

[Transcend]

What I'm trying to figure out is how you 180'd so many town reads. You had kts as town then lynched him. Then you had PC as town and lynched him. You had tenshii as hard town and then lynched him. And now your tr on me has disintegrated but i can understand the last one since we're in lylo and it's balls intense. I really wanna believe that all those flips you made were genuine and not tactical. But you never exactly committed to a strong scum read. I'm not saying that this play from you makes you scum, but it could make you scum since it looks mad shady.

[Transcend]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but i don't remember you tring the Rosske slot and you weren't on that lynch like ever. Your reads vs the votes you made could be possibly tactical and not genuine.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

What I'm trying to figure out is how you 180'd so many town reads. You had kts as town then lynched him. Then you had PC as town and lynched him. You had tenshii as hard town and then lynched him. And now your tr on me has disintegrated but i can understand the last one since we're in lylo and it's balls intense. I really wanna believe that all those flips you made were genuine and not tactical. But you never exactly committed to a strong scum read. I'm not saying that this play from you makes you scum, but it could make you scum since it looks mad shady.

is this @me

[Transcend]

Yes giga

[Transcend]

Also smith: why do you think thor was a weird night kill when you had reasons for both of us to be final wolf based on it?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

k
i'll answer that in a bit

i was totally supporting the rosske wagon tho i thought that was clear?? idk i'll have to reread bc i dont even remember what i was thinking months ago

[Transcend]

I'm not losing this game. I will ask more questions than every game host has combined until i have ascertained the final mafia.

Pedit: you didn't lynch him when he got hung.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

oh yeah that's true
i though tenshii was a better lynch at the time

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i'm phone posting and kind of distracted if that's not obv

[Transcend]

Also if memory serves: i don't think you lynched Rosske because you were "anti-Transcend" i.e. you voted whoever i didn't vote.

Pedit: no worries. I'm phone posting as well. Just woke up.

[Transcend]

Just tell me where your head is leaning before you vote.

Tenshii>Mhsmith>I keep waffling between Thor and Transcend as the top townread but I never put much thought into it because you're probably both town anyway

This is the lylo I expected...

Me being spared over Thor points towards Transcend scum, I think. Thor was the person least likely to vote for Mhsmith and bringing both me and him to LYLO is his only shot at survival. I need to think this over though.

Explain this line of thinking for me please. You expected Thor to be NK'd but you had me as potentially one of your best town reads. You immediately pointed a finger at me when Thor flipped. Did you have an unannounced FOS on me yesterday?

[Transcend]

Oh and I don't expect immediate answers either. I understand you both have a life outside of this game. I do too. It's just I'm off the next 3 days. In my perfect world we'd all be online at the same time to directly interact but unfortunately, wishes don't always come true.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

no it's just like

every decision mhsmith has made this game seems to hurt him... i would have expected (at first) for him to kill you, but after thinking about it he benefits from this lylo too. so that point is kinda pointless now i guess.

tbh im tempted to vote him but i really need to like actually think this game (i lost interest d2) bc atm i kind of just want to dick around

[Transcend]

Take ya time lad we have 2 weeks.

[Transcend]

But let it be known that whether you flip town or scum, I bestow the title of biggest waffle of this game to you, Giga.

[Transcend]

Now I'm just trying to decide if you waffle this game is a waffle that is Belgian, cooked straight from the iron, with luscious maple syrup and delectable butter or if your waffle was a soggy uncooked leftover from breakfast Eggo toaster waffle.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

lmao thanks

this is like my worst game tbqh, i had like no reads or motivation to try

personally i like my waffles made from like those Pillsbury biscuit things and then cooked on the waffle iron. it feels so illegal but so right. also works for cinnamon rolls from the same can

[Transcend]

NP.

Can't say this has been a good game of mine either.

I ought to try one of those some time.

[mhsmith0]

God you quoted karnos' vote and i had a heart attack.

Good answers.

Smith when you can i want my questions answered.

I think I did? See last page, let me know what I missed.

Also smith: why do you think thor was a weird night kill when you had reasons for both of us to be final wolf based on it?

Well, if it's you, shooting Thor wasn't impossible, but I'd think shooting giga was a bit likelier from you. The fact that nk motive has been discussed a bunch this game dampens the impact, but I feel like you'd probably at least slightly prefer a final 3 of me, you, Thor instead of a final 3 of me, you, giga. Then again, Thor had indicated willingness to lynch you while giga hadn't, so honestly you probably could have made either shot reasonably. Obviously giga is shooting Thor unless they're feeling REALLY ballsy and want to shoot you to implicate me (I was half expecting you to flip dead more or less for that reason).

[Transcend]

I was fairly sure either Giga or Thor were gonna die.

RN I'm at 75 smith and 25 giga but it's not enough to make a vote.

[mhsmith0]

If anything I want to hear the case against me because (I guess this is in part of knowing I'm town) it just really seems unlikely for me to be scum and I want to know the thought process behind it.

Some of it is gut, but I think I have more tangible and meaningful reasons to TR trans compared to you. Kind of feels like you've been keeping your hands clean since the karnos wagon and not really been pushing or being aggressive (need to re-read to make sure that's correct). Also the "let's build a town block" but in d2 was sketchy, though the idea of it being allowed to go through without much in the way of pushback was basically a collective town failure.

Trans's ATE early today was a bit suspicious (and I'm not sure where his SR of you came from after his d5 talk about being willing to give you the game), but overall it seems like he's been legitimately invested in his reads, he's avoided signing off on some of the mislynch wagons this game (even passively), and I give some credence to Maria (who I believe knows him best) saying this is his town game.

I also need to re-read you and karnos interactions to make sure they look as good as I remember. Also need to read up on some of your town games on site to see if I can get a substantive comparison (though I believe there are no red flips from you).

[mhsmith0]

Of course the flip side is I've got like four games straight w Thor where he had scum reads before he died that turned out to be correct even when I didn't understand or agree w them.