Mini Normal 1829 - Game Over

[kraska77]

my guess is karnos and some outside shot too
probably thor

[Shadow_step]

NC = Nero Cain.
There is no way Titus wasn't getting bussed there, she was a goon.
In guessing Karnos off the wagon and Thor/NC on the wagon.

Giga is unlikely to be scum. I have a vanilla on Kraska.

That leaves elyse and Michel. One of them could be the SK.

[kraska77]

Giga is unlikely to be scum. I have a vanilla on Kraska.

That leaves elyse and Michel. One of them could be the SK.

you do realise it could be and probably is a vig too right?
why the hell did you out your result

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: Karnos

[kraska77]

VOTE: karnos

[gigabyteTroubadour]

damn my set-up spec is good

Pretty sure gunsmith flip means shadow is town, i'll explain when i'm home

prob voting karnos but i don't want a qh

[Shadow_step]

Giga is unlikely to be scum. I have a vanilla on Kraska.

That leaves elyse and Michel. One of them could be the SK.

you do realise it could be and probably is a vig too right?
why the hell did you out your result

Hmm could be a vig, though I'm not sure why he didn't target gerry n1?

I am the most suspected player and I would have been forced to claim my result first anyway. Just sped up the process.

[karnos]

if shadow is scum, that doesn't mean giga isn't.

NC was also high on my scumdar based on his early day 1 play, seemed like a lot of fake scumhunting.

Looking at titus last few comments, makes me wonder if she was saying that because she was getting bused. shadow was off the wagon, but maybe the 3rd scum was on it- giga or nero.

[karnos]

so shadow, what is your result?

[kraska77]

@shadow probably because theyre x-shot?
lots of people looked suspicious n1, the fact that there was no kill makes me feel we're dealing with a vig here

[kraska77]

why would sk skip a kill?

[karnos]

[quote="In post 1976
Giga is unlikely to be scum.[/quote]

Why do you keep saying that?

If transcend was scum, he knew maria was town and a safe fake mason partner. If he was town, he didn't know that, and it would have been suicidal to partner up as a fake mason with someone who could well be scum.

Transcend slot makes the most sense as scum, and it doesn't change alignment when he replaced out.

[karnos]

kraska77, i am assuming the result on you is accurate. remember that only proves he is the claimed role, it doesn't mean shit about his alignment. scum vanilla cops are a thing.

[Shadow_step]

why would sk skip a kill?

It's something I'd do as SK.
So as to not immediately be on the scum radar of who to kill.

[kraska77]

@karnos i trust my read on him from days 1 and 2 though
and im glad i wasnt wrong about gerry. his interactions with titus looked like titus was setting him up to be a sitting duck day 3
interactions between you and titus looked strained

[karnos]

Shadow:

"There are three variations of Vanilla Cop:
"Vanilla" results are given for any role that doesn't have any individual powers (e.g., Vanilla Townie, Mafia Goon, a Serial Killer with no other powers); "Not Vanilla" results are given on all others.
"Vanilla" results are given only for Vanilla Townies; "Not Vanilla" is given for all other roles, including Mafia Goons. (This is sometimes called a Neapolitan.)
"Vanilla" results are given for any role that has the word Vanilla in it (including other Vanilla Cops).
Normal Guidelines"

Which one are you? Does your role PM say goons will come back as vanilla, or is it clear that only VT comes back as vanilla?

[karnos]

@karnos i trust my read on him from days 1 and 2 though
and im glad i wasnt wrong about gerry. his interactions with titus looked like titus was setting him up to be a sitting duck day 3
interactions between you and titus looked strained

I don't trust your read on him, because your read on me is wrong. There is something wrong with your reading device.

Look, lets speed this up. I'm sick of playing with terrible town who scum read me because I don't follow conventionally meta.

If I flip town, will you lynch giga tomorrow?

i'll just vote self and we can get this game on and I won't have to deal with this sorta of BS.

[kraska77]

i dont even remember you two interacting actually
and whenever one of you was asked for a read on the other, you gave an awkward townread you couldnt back up
and you're still pushing for a giga lynch when everything points towards her being town, especially after titus' flip

[kraska77]

why is giga scum again?

[karnos]

Does that make a lot of sense to you? Town reading a scum partner who is sitting at L-1? Do you see that often?

I've never done that. Feel free to go through my past games, I typically bus my partner or even if I am not trying to bus I am not stupid enough resist an obvious lynch.

[karnos]

1986

[Shadow_step]

Pretty sure it is the first variant according to my role pm, but I've just asked CT for confirmation.

[kraska77]

1986

you're still hung up on the mason episode :/
go through blitz/titus iso and look at her interactions with transcend. doesnt look like distancing, looks like legit mudslinging

[karnos]

@karnos i trust my read on him from days 1 and 2 though

I think I misread the above. I thought you meant giga, but I guess you were talking about shadow? not a big difference, but I think giga is the more likely scum of the two.

I'll admit I've been a bit lazy, I should go back and re-read day 1 interactions based on knowing blitz and gerry's alignments, might help determine the other scum.

[kraska77]

ok im giving you boftd
read early blitz/transcend interactions and tell me if you still think giga is scum
and yeah i was talking about shadow