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[Nero Cain]

I'm here now so why is it important that I wasn't here before?

[MortFeld]

Wobbs isn't a green read. All of my green read comes from Copper. Wobbs looks like a fool to be honest, his misrepping is horrible. This is why I'd need a case.
The copper greenread is mostly because of the effort he put into gamesolving.
He acted consistently within himself, as in he never had a contradiction of motive or otherwise. His opinions logically changed when he found reason to (see post 159) and in his argument with you and TwoFace, he picked his side and stuck with it.
His analysis of scum likely opportunistically jumping on his wagon is very credible, and my read of his argument with you and TF screams TvTT to me.
Posts like 429 and [post]463] just don't come from scum in my eyes, especially the latter which is filled with logically consistent reads that coincide with what he's expressed recently.

Thanks for this assessment. I really don't see Red playing the way you are, especially when you've been at L-2 for such a long time. Earlier I said that I don't see Green!HS as likely, I do think that you've done certain things that logically should not come from town.

Drone, your vote of HS is basically because of this. What do you think of the idea that, judging from HS' more recent posts, they are actually VT and were fumbling with theory with all that PR hunting?

Pedit: it's not important, but it seems like you're saying you won't be able to catch up and post until Monday.

[MortFeld]

Sorry, I misread your post. That's my bad, looking forward to your contribution.

[Nero Cain]

Even if I couldn't post till Monday (wich is not what I said anyways) we'd still have 3 days till deadline so I'm not sure what you are getting all up in arms about.

Nothing to see here move along.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wobbu is town.

Why?

I had a slight town read on copper. I understand why some people read Copper as scum, I think it's his personality. I had a scum read on him a large part of my newbie, but he ended up as town.

And this:

That was my reason. Make of it what you will. I'm not going to go and make up another reason just to make myself look less scummy. I've already unlynched them after being told that my reasoning was bad (I agree that it wasn't all that solid).

Wobbuffet what previous experience you have playing mafia?

I've played a lot of chat mafia on a different site.

This reads very honest to me by the way.

The predecessor of the slot shouldn't have an effect on how you read DBW.

Honesty is NAI here I feel and his response reads like laziness as well which is making me more suspicious by the day. You're treating him like confirmed town here.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

It seems like you have a problem with the TF wagon not going through and/or Mort not being on it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

urgh.. I feel I may be bashing my head into a wall here.. but no I find that they been on every leading wagon bar one (even when some wagons was coexisting in the first two wagons) and there being enough of a connection between TF and mort to call it a possibility that they are red buddies a problem.. I don't mind that TF wagon died. I was one of the many that unvoted the slot the moment the GM said they'd get replaced.

PEDIT:
UNVOTE:
You know what... This is a terrible train and the more I push it the more its clear that Its the wrong direction.. I thought by now I'd get SOME kind of reaction from mort if they was red or TF but there reaction is so muted that I think I'm just on the wrong train of thought. So.. yeah. I expect I'll take a bit of heat for this choice.. but it looked like it matched up close enough.. but there is no way a red would be this cool...

Your push was bad because your case NAI and it was a reaction test as you just admitted. Which means you most likely never believed Mort was scum and I'm now starting to think you felt you needed to do something to prevent your slot from being read null to slightly SR.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The HS wagon as someone pointed out earlier has stalled and we have less than a week until deadline. I don't see the game moving with the amount of replacements we have and soon the holidays. I know I'll be v/LA come Thanksgiving.

@Mod:

Can we get an extension? I refuse to have the day end in a no lynch.

[MortFeld]

Yeah I would normally categorically oppose an extension but we've had 4 players replace out, 1 with chronic inactivity, and 1 who's been V/LA for most of the DP, which adds up to nearly half of the playerbase causing some sort of delay.

[Human Sequencer]

I'm with Uzi on that. Ending D1 no lynch is just not nice.

[keyenpeydee]

I lynch the one who has the most votes. No need to worry!

[Naomi-Tan]

Your push was bad because your case NAI and it was a reaction test as you just admitted. Which means you most likely never believed Mort was scum and I'm now starting to think you felt you needed to do something to prevent your slot from being read null to slightly SR.

originally It wasn't meant as a reaction test but it came one..

your second half was correct though.. I felt all the trains was TvT and I was just looking for something to get some movement in more directions when I stumbled upon morts vote pattern. But... in hindsight I'm pretty sure it was just a bad vote.

[TwoFace]

I lynch the one who has the most votes. No need to worry!

Wait I don't think that's in your rules. So plurality is in effect?

[keyenpeydee]

I lynch the one who has the most votes. No need to worry!

Wait I don't think that's in your rules. So plurality is in effect?

Sorry for not stating it. I thought it was normal here.

[TwoFace]

I'm with Uzi on that. Ending D1 no lynch is just not nice.

I've actually seen NL work in towns favor. It's rare but happens

[TwoFace]

I lynch the one who has the most votes. No need to worry!

Wait I don't think that's in your rules. So plurality is in effect?

Sorry for not stating it. I thought it was normal here.

No it's not. I wish more people did it.

[Naomi-Tan]

Is plurality considered normal game in terms of game meta//Setup?

[Human Sequencer]

@Key That's fair enough then.

@TwoFace Yeah, but this is not one one of those situations.

[TwoFace]

Is plurality considered normal game in terms of game meta//Setup?

It's mod discretion but typically it's supposed to be communicated in the rules.

P.edit - actually it is

[Nero Cain]

even with 5 days till deadline I don't think we'd end up in a no lynch but if its plurality then we not need to worry.

[MortFeld]

@TF - You think no lynch benefits town here? Why?

[Human Sequencer]

I don't think that's what he was trying to say.

[MortFeld]

Ok. What he was trying to say is unclear, I guessed.

[TwoFace]

@TF - You think no lynch benefits town here? Why?

Well it's a non issue now but if we did NL, today it wouldn't hurt town as much as if we mislynch

[MortFeld]

Yeah of course. Isn't that true of every DP?

[Human Sequencer]

Not lylo.