Open 658 Making Friends and Enemies | Game Over

Titus · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:49 am

Yup, mason fishing.

Your attitude is pretty transparent.

It's not up to you to get a CC, someone vouches for you.
If no one vouches, we lynch you.
If someone vouches, then we check CCs.

Secret Agent Jin · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:55 am

Why would someone vouch for me? That would be outing the other Mason which would be dumb since mafia would then know who is the other Mason. If you lynch me then i flip Mason and you are guaranteed to be lynched tomorrow. If you are VT then that would be bad for you to lynch me since you would be one person closer to losing. On top of that, im dead tonight because mafia wants to kill the masons.

Titus · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:18 am

If you are a real mason, someone would vouch for you. That's the point of masons.

If you're scum, no one will vouch for you. That would create an impossible setup for scum (needing two mislynches with only one open).

Yet, you are likely scum.

Titus · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:19 am

Given you already claimed VT and now when I cannot unvote, you suddenly claim mason...not how it works.

BK201 · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:32 am

In post 1517, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I think Titus only having one post is a bit suspicious and they arent really contributing either plus they did replace for Burgerking which i had a scumread on. They are probably a great place to start. I will look into some others more and get back to you soon.

Did you look into others yet? What do you think of Titus now that she has more posts? If you really are a mason, why claim VT at L-1?

Creature · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:40 am

Someone will have to counterclaim mason if you want me to lynch SAJ.

Titus · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:41 am

Well, that's 3 players we know are not lying to save you SAJ.

Secret Agent Jin · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:41 am

In post 1554, BK201 wrote:
In post 1517, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I think Titus only having one post is a bit suspicious and they arent really contributing either plus they did replace for Burgerking which i had a scumread on. They are probably a great place to start. I will look into some others more and get back to you soon.
Did you look into others yet? What do you think of Titus now that she has more posts? If you really are a mason, why claim VT at L-1?

I claimed VT to hopefully shed someone's vote without letting scum know i am Mason but i feared a hammer so when i didnt shed votes i fully claimed. I think Titus is scum that is trying to get a mason lynched but its possible that she is VT that really thinks i am scum. I have some quotes to prove i am mason but it would out my partner and i rather not do that. I also think that two of the three on my wagon are scum with one being a misled VT. Do me a favor BK, if i get hammered, ISO the three on my wagon and fight for the ones you think are scum.

Titus · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:42 am

In post 1555, Creature wrote:Someone will have to counterclaim mason if you want me to lynch SAJ.

Please do not tell me I had the buddy wrong.

Creature · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:43 am

It's way better to sacrifice one mason to get scum lynched than outing the entire masonry to confirm one mason.

Titus · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:45 am

Wrong. No town dies if he is town.

If he's scum, a mason outs themselves and it's not too long to find the other mason. That's why I approached the game like I did.

Creature · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:46 am

So far no counterclaims.

Titus · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:47 am

This is a pretty blatant masonfish imo.

I'm a VT.
I'm a mason.
LaL until proven otherwise.
Not to mention his scummy play.

Titus · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

In post 1561, Creature wrote:So far no counterclaims.

I am not a mason, but I wouldn't counterclaim here if I was one.

Creature · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

What's better? One mason out with a regular chance of scum finding the other mason or two masons out?

Titus · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:48 am

My plan is better for town as no mason has to out themselves unless we are way off track and need the assust.

Creature · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:49 am

Your plan is good if SAJ is scum, but not if SAJ is town.

Titus · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:50 am

In post 1564, Creature wrote:What's better? One mason out with a regular chance of scum finding the other mason or two masons out?

Two masons. (Supposing I am wrong)

Lynches become nigh on impossible for scum.
The masons have wills and night chat.

I am not wrong.

We force SAJ's scumbuddy to fry SAJ if scum.

Creature · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:51 am

My plan:

SAJ telling the truth: Only one mason out, no counterclaims.
SAJ lying: Scum dead and only one mason out.

Your plan:

SAJ telling the truth: Both masons out.
SAJ lying: Scum dead.

Titus · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:55 am

Add night kills

Creature/SAJ plan

SAJ town) SAJ dead. No information.
SAJ scum) Mason dead (whoever CCs). No info.

Titus plan
SAJ town) Mason dead, conftown present; lynches insane on scum.
SAJ scum) Dead scum, masons hidden.

Creature · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:56 am

Also, another downfall of your plan is that, if SAJ is lying, even if no mason outed scum might still kill one of them.

Titus · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:56 am

Oh and if SAJ is town, they get the entire nightphase to share reads.

Titus · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:57 am

In post 1570, Creature wrote:Also, another downfall of your plan is that, if SAJ is lying, even if no mason outed scum might still kill one of them.

That downfall exists in any setup.

It's much less likely though if we do not help them by giving a CC.

Creature · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:00 am

Okay then, give me time to think.

Creature · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:03 am

What if we try to lynch the other scum?