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[Loopdan]

Boom. Roasted.

VOTE: LUV

[TTTT]

Damnit.

VOTE: LUV

[JaeReed]

VC 2.03

Lil Uzi Vert (3)

: gerryoat, drealmerz7, TTTT

NOT VOTING (8)

: Impoetic, Titus, ironstove, Drone, shannon, Sesq, Lil Uzi Vert, ssbm_Kyouko

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-22 01:30:00)

Thanks, you guys are the best. <3

[Titus]

It makes sense, but I want to hear him out. Worst case, we get information.

[shannon]

I think LUV is town.

To my mind it seems silly for a scum team to come out and fake a role and a result when they've just lost RB, especially when Gerry was already in some people's minds as a lynch for today. I don't personally think LUV was under so much pressure as to necessitate a PR claim. Especially not one that gets him nowhere.

Yesterday someone (maybe it was Transcend) was saying they thought the two of us were connected and both scum. I think a few people had us in their scum pools. It just seems silly for Scum LUV to draw attention to himself by faking a result on me, or even to use his powers (if he's a scum tracker) and genuinely track me. (Why would Scum LUV think I'm a PR?). What I *can* see, though, is that Town LUV might be worried that this connection people are imagining between us is actually me as scum buddying him. So I think he legit tracked me for that reason.

Thoughts?

((Given that I had the shittest reads in the world on both RB and Transcend, I understand if everyone decides to vote LUV based on my town read of him))

[drealmerz7]

Thoughts?

you're mad he made such a crap move as a scum-partner?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm the one who was pointing to rb-LUV and shannon-LUV but iirc I didn't see much in the way of shannon-rb. I'd have to check my notes on PC after work though. Transcend's town block basically adopted TTTTs scum pool plus Shannon so you were in at least a few lynch pools but you weren't the focus, at least not my focus.

Uzi, why did you target shannon? You saw what rb flipped before you had to choose if you were going to use your action. Since you're one shot, I'd also question your choice to use the shot last night. Why not save your action for later use or at least target someone like Gerry or Impoetic who were both low activity yesterday, or someone like TTTT, Drone, or ironstove who was on the counter wagon to scum?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I want more people to weigh in on yesterday's Gerry wagon and hear about LUVs decisionmaking before voting LUV officially, but that's where my vote is going once that happens, unless something significant comes up

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention

IF THERE IS A REAL TRACKER OR COP DON'T CC LUV, I WANT YOU TO SURVIVE TONIGHT AND YOUR CC IS NOT NECESSARY TO LYNCH HIM

[shannon]

Thoughts?

you're mad he made such a crap move as a scum-partner?

I don't think LUV is the type to make such obviously crap moves.

I'm the one who was pointing to rb-LUV and shannon-LUV but iirc I didn't see much in the way of shannon-rb. I'd have to check my notes on PC after work though. Transcend's town block basically adopted TTTTs scum pool plus Shannon so you were in at least a few lynch pools but you weren't the focus, at least not my focus.

Uzi, why did you target shannon? You saw what rb flipped before you had to choose if you were going to use your action. Since you're one shot, I'd also question your choice to use the shot last night. Why not save your action for later use or at least target someone like Gerry or Impoetic who were both low activity yesterday, or someone like TTTT, Drone, or ironstove who was on the counter wagon to scum?

OK, so having RB flip scum, and LUV claim to have investigated me (and said that I didn't go anywhere), what does that mean for your connections?
I also find it weird that you didn't see anything between RB and me, given that I just really didn't see the case for him as scum and said so quite vocally.

I would second your call for LUV to explain why he targeted me.

[Sesq]

Perhaps the gimmick for this game is one-shots? (If LUV is to be trusted, that is.)

[TTTT]

Imp is getting off easy here. His posts today are bad.
Iron continues to lurk.
Probably scum in ^there

[shannon]

Errr hang on, LUV's justification was 'I didn't think RB would flip town' in 1481. But he got the flip before he had to pick a tracker target. HMMMMMM>

[shannon]

Oh, right SSBM said that above. He makes a good point!

[Sesq]

Imp is getting off easy here. His posts today are bad.
Iron continues to lurk.
Probably scum in ^there

I checked him, and yep, he's online today, and yep, he didn't post anything. Might as well.

VOTE: ironstove

Can you also explain why Impo's posts are bad? One Titus is enough.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I obviously meant scum.

As to why I tracked Shannon as opposed to D7 and Impoetic, it's quite simple. rb flipped scum. I didn't expect that, I thought she was slipping under the radar way more than anyone else in the game, and I didn't find a D7/Impo/RB team likely based on how hard rb was pushing D7. Yeah I could've used my shot on Drone or Iron but gut won out and choose Shannon.

[drealmerz7]

sesq you not feeling the LUV lynch at all/that he's scum? he's much better than ironstove at this point

[drealmerz7]

I obviously meant scum.

obviously...

[drealmerz7]

obviously scum

[ssbm_Kyouko]

LUV, If rb and impo were 1/2 who would be scum #3? And shannon I'd have to check my notes for shannon-rb like I said but rb-LUV was the main thing I saw yesterday so it's what I remember without my notes handy.

Also I was gonna ask about why LUV said that about rb's flip but it seemed like it was obvious what he meant and there are less distracting things to be talking about rn

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gut says Gerry, brain says could be anyone at this point.

[shannon]

@LUV can you please explain to me how all this (in spoilers) constitutes flying under the radar? Cos it kinda looks like Scum Me woulda been in trouble, with Transcend being pretty keen to have me killed off.

I'm also keen to know why you and RB both joined a wagon that I started early in the game, and then you just drifted off and voted no one for the entire rest of the day?

Spoiler:

Nice walls guys

But you're both town

Let's hang one of shannon, Uzi, kohai, Ironstove, or rb.

TTTT's scum pile is fucking excellent.

Kohai and Shannon are the other scum i think

VOTE: rb

Yes! Get that bus vote in man! I'll make note of it and suggest to town that we let you remain as the last scum to be lynched for your good behavior.

You're honestly sounding like an enormous scumfuck

But shannon and kohai are worse.

shannon

why couldn't u have been town with me again > : (

My case would just be vibes, which is no case at all.

and i have a vote on me already

why not strengthen that wagon tosee if your vibes are aaccurate or not

your play looks to careful and tactical

tonight's WWE match is shannon vs. the noose

who will be the winner?

my money's on the noose imo

Vig shannon or stove tonight btw

[shannon]

VC 1.10

Impoetic (3)

: Kohai, Transcend, ironstove

drealmerz7 (3)

: shannon, Lil Uzi Vert, rb

rb (1)

: TTTT

TTTT (1)

: Drone

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

: drealmerz7

Sesq (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

Transcend (1)

: iamafluffyrabbit

NOT VOTING (2)

: Impoetic, Sesq

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-12-10 12:30:00)

Kohai is V/LA until the 28th.

I'm referring to this, btw.

Also @Impoetic I think we said something earlier about you being able to find scum after the flip by looking at your wagon and who was on it... might be time to go back and do that now.

[drealmerz7]

drealmerz7 (3): shannon, Lil Uzi Vert, rb

I think this is the more tellling wagon

[shannon]

I definitely find it interesting in retrospect. RB named me 'town for now' and joined the wagon I started, so that to me is a pretty clear attempt to garner some town cred through a bit of buddying. Kinda fell apart when people started pushing RB really heavily instead of pushing me, though.

The all-important question is what LUV was thinking, and why he voted nowhere at the end of day.