New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[pieguyn]

well, mhsmith0 is scum.

hmm, what to do~

[pieguyn]

should I stay, dear? or should I make both of us feel the sweet embrace of death together?~

[pieguyn]

here's a fun idea.

if mhsmith0 wants to live, he gets on his hands and knees and ~begs~ for it. that sounds fun, right?

[The_Jester]

I think you should keep your weird bdsm stuff in your pt

[MariaR]

I think you should keep your weird bdsm stuff in your pt

^

[pieguyn]

taking all my fun away from me, I see.

but really, I'm not joking.

[Parama]

drive a wagon on him if he's scum and give us as much info as possible

don't be vedith

[mhsmith0]

drive a wagon on him if he's scum and give us as much info as possible

don't be vedith

This is both true and generically obvious (whispers: setup spec and explaining how to play to win con is bad and will get you scumread for

reasons

). But given her stated suspicion, town!pie should always be voting and casing and actively pushing for my lynch, as opposed to posturing around the idea of game throwing even harder than vedith did.

I think you should keep your weird bdsm stuff in your pt

I think you should keep your weird bdsm stuff in your pt

^

One of these is likely scum, joking around the situation instead of actually engaging with it. I'd guess jester over Maria fwiw. I'm skeptical they're both scum though.

I also think town!dunn is likely to know better than his push given our history together, especially his accusation expressed in http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8602415 wrt my interaction w Maria, which suggests either the same lack of critical engagement with my posts that he seems to suggest is alignment-indicative towards me, or he's conf!biasing towards the theory he's already made towards me being scum. I lean towards the former but am not sure yet.

Ps I think mds probably believes in her push on me, but again am not fully sold on that yet.

[pieguyn]

heh.

I have no intention of suiciding, I was hoping if mhsmith was scum he or one of his partners might have tripped themselves up and overreacted. I think this is pretty solidly in "is going nowhere" territory at this point, though, so w/e.

[Dunnstral]

First of all you're not playing the same as you were in that one other game (you see to be suggesting I'd townread you here or at least look at you more carefully - I have looked at you and think you're scum)
How does the post your linked show a lack of critical engagement on my part?

Also, I'm not confbiased

[mhsmith0]

The post I'd made to maria pretty clearly was engaging her on her meta tendencies with our shared game experience as the background, and you either twisted it into a "omg smith is being hypocritical" bit or you simply weren't thinking about what I was saying.

This is especially interesting since I'd discussed this exactly meta tendency in open 658

Oddmusic, Creature, mariaR all town leans

Oddmusic generally looks villagery
Creature basically does literally nothing as scum, see http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go
MariaR seems to put actual effort into looking decent when she's scum, while she's kinda lynchbait as town (sample size of 1 each for her but w/e)

I'd have more reads but it's late and I'm tired.

which to me means that if you were truly curious about what I was saying and why I was saying it, you'd either acknowledge that my point was maria-specific (as opposed to the seemingly flagrant hypocrisy you accused me of), or, if you were skeptical of me, I guess you could have pushed me about why I'd question her like that when we had a game together where she hadn't put effort into looking decent, AND she was scum.

Instead you hopped to the "smith being hypocritical" bit, which is a generally easy/lazy attack to make, and suggests that you aren't putting in the effort to actually think through what I'm actually doing.

PS What I'm actually suggesting is that you should probably consider my performance so far this game to be decently within my town range, and then the question would be whether you also think it's decently within my wolf range (and to my knowledge you aren't familiar with how I wolf).

Nevertheless, you state that I'm "not playing the same as you were in that one other game", to which I'd ask you to talk through how exactly you think I'm different, particularly compared to my first week or so in that game, where I also wasn't doing very much.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Checking the good ol' mafiascum dot net.

[mhsmith0]

VOTE: mhsmith-pieguyn

mhsmith is thoroughly underwhelming this game

No, Smith, I don't think it's at all bizarre that both of us are pushing you. I really am not seeing the Smith from 658 here, with the wagonomics and the predictions. You were also much less defensive in that game.

Why oh why did you have to roll scum? This game would've been so much easier if you were on our side.

Not yet, check again later lol

[mhsmith0]

stupid reply function randomly reposting earlier quotes

[Human Sequencer]

on break, just skimmed
mhsmith is probably town lol, how are people even scum reading this
arthur just made the best post in the game and probably on the site

[mhsmith0]

mhsmith is probably town lol, how are people even scum reading this

Talk about why? I feel like the point about my not doing much so far is relatively valid, and while I think most of the rest of the case against me is reachy, that doesn't really make me obv!town or anything.

[Dunnstral]

mhsmith I don't even know what you're arguing right now

I think you're different in a sense that you're here and not just flaking out but still doing nothing, and you're just

off

[mhsmith0]

@HS, @Dunn: you two should talk to each other about me. I'll grab popcorn and watch.

PS My 2710 was about your 2691 (with a bit of your 2709 as well). Really not sure what was unclear about what I'm saying. If you're unclear about it, try stating what you think I'm saying and go from there? "That's not clear" is itself not clear; what do you not understand?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Oh nothing

You just agree with everything I'm saying in thread and have the same thoughts as me AND think I'm town but yet don't want to partner up

make out already

Okay I actually read.

If Shadow flips scum, I will be hardcore pushing Parama.

I can also possibly see an MDS-mhsmith scumpair.

[Nahdia]

nice quote.

[Nahdia]

SAD can be town for that gif. Quality gif.

SAD remind me of your read on your partner?

[mhsmith0]

@sad: what makes you think I'm scum w mds?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I mean I don't know about you guys, but if I were scum I would def go for an early distancing on one of my buddies (and put the other somewhere between leaning town-to town?)

But putting an early distancing is super important for scum because if one of them flips, then the other can coast to late game and possibly endgame because of freelo townie-points.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

nice quote.

Thanks I was trying to compare your gif to mine and see who had a better one.

SAD remind me of your read on your partner?

Town.

[Nahdia]

Okay hombre, I trust you. You're pair is officially unmarked for death.