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Post Post #3200 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:55 am

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Tracker is like the Bud Light of town power roles. It's not terrible, but it's also not really what you want highlighting your party.
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Post Post #3201 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:57 am

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You are not considering the fact that he vig shot failing on a person without a reasonable explanation is a guilty in itself.
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Post Post #3202 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:58 am

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WHY ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
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Post Post #3203 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:59 am

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STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER GAMES THAT ARE COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT THERE'S ALREADY TOO MUCH CLUTTER IN THIS THREAD WITHOUT THAT
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Post Post #3204 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:01 am

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It's an implied possibility, except that vig getting roleblocked is highly possible too (as far as town goes). And tracker should almost never be in a game wtih multiple scum power roles that aren't roleblockers, because it has false implied innocent possibilities.

Anyway, that's kind of an old battle that doesn't really matter for this game
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Post Post #3205 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:01 am

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Yeah, yeah, sorry. Old wound. Will move on.
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Post Post #3206 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:02 am

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back to actual content
In post 3190, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3186, Shadow_step wrote:Mh, town! You can make better cases on people in his sleep. I don't think you buy your own case.
Also, what exactly about my case makes you think I don't buy it? I feel like that's a statement that ought to be substantiated by quotes/explanations that back up the idea that I'm somehow just going through the motions or faking my case etc.
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Post Post #3207 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:04 am

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In post 3155, MariaR wrote:Your vote came out of left field and was opportunistic as HELL
very slight villa points for parama for 3202/3 btw. potentially fakable, but it looks like he actually gives a shit about it in his post.
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Post Post #3208 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:04 am

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Spoiler: for mh
not really, a tracker tracking the maf doc is a guaranteed guilty once the doc flips like.
Don't get me started on how impossible it is to pass a scum RB in mini normals :P
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Post Post #3209 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:06 am

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In post 3206, mhsmith0 wrote:back to actual content
In post 3190, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3186, Shadow_step wrote:Mh, town! You can make better cases on people in his sleep. I don't think you buy your own case.
Also, what exactly about my case makes you think I don't buy it? I feel like that's a statement that ought to be substantiated by quotes/explanations that back up the idea that I'm somehow just going through the motions or faking my case etc.
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Post Post #3210 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:09 am

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You can happily shit post about a prior game but can't talk about what makes you think I'm faking my case on you?
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Post Post #3211 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:12 am

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On phone can't quote selectively.
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Post Post #3212 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:14 am

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Fine I guess but you better have good reason to support the idea that you actually believe I'm faking my push on you if you're gonna need a full day to put it together.
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Post Post #3213 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:19 am

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What's your thoughts on Dunn/Kagami
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Post Post #3214 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:23 am

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Dunns push on me has been garbage and I could potentially buy the idea that it's faked. I'd have a better opinion on him but I don't want to read >400 posts by a guy who I'm not especially good at reading.

Pie seems to think kagami pretty likely town, and I'm since I'm still null on pie I'm ok w deferring to that idea for now.
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Post Post #3215 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:40 am

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That's a bad reason go TR kagami. You said you'd analyse who chose whom as partners and why. Kagami choosing Dunn in what 10 minutes or something isn't scummy to you?

Also why isn't scum me voting you right now?
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Post Post #3216 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:49 am

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Post Post #3217 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:58 am

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I'd say that just about everyone seemed to be lazy about who they were taking and why (and/or just going w someone they wanted to pair with regardless of alignment); why does kagami stand out in particular on that end?
Other examples: jester/mds wanted to pair together

Pie took me because I was getting taken anyway, she thought we were compatible, and why not (in PT she expressed a preference for being paired w scum so she could eventually die before endgame, fwiwi)

I don't recall why Maria took you do but I do remember her being clear on it being a useful source of a TR for her
In post 771, MariaR wrote:If you think I picked shadow as scum to draw a giant target on my back Vedith that's really bad thinking when I could've went with 2 others.
Can you answer my question.

Pedit: I'm saying you're sudden call out on me was sus as fuck when you had nothing to back it up besides calling something fake and that's the easiest thing you can ever say as scum
It would be nice if I could get something useful from the accepts but enough seem lazy that it seems like a non productive avenue (I recall asking about it and nit really getting anything useful from the excercise). Do you disagree? Maybe you think a partuclar accept was especially towny in nature?


As far as scum!you goes, you certainly could be voting me, but maybe you are concerned with not looking opportunistic or OMGUS-y, maybe pie is your buddy, maybe you have a strategic reason to be pushing Dunn/kagami (possible distancing? Possible hoping to throw dirt on a town pair?). I don't feel like your non vote on me is especially clearing at this point; do you think I'm mistaken in this evaluation and your being elsewhere is an important point in your favor?
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Post Post #3218 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:59 am

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This game needs more voting, or more suicide.

I remain of the opinion that jester-mds is the most likely to get a scum-flip. I'm willing to go smith as well.

I'm probably not going to compromise on shadow-maria vs intermission unless there's something I'm missing beyond that they're terrible.
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Post Post #3219 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:59 am

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Ps wrt kagami, I'd agree it's a shit reason to give a solid TR. Not sure it's that bad of a reason to de-prioritize sorting the slot tho.
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Post Post #3220 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:59 am

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So you think me pointing out logical common sense is bad now?
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Post Post #3221 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:59 am

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In post 3218, Kagami wrote:This game needs more voting, or more suicide.
The game needs more voting. Suiciding game-throwers can suck it.
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Post Post #3222 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:00 am

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In post 3220, MariaR wrote:So you think me pointing out logical common sense is bad now?
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Post Post #3223 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:01 am

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the way you used that quote of me trying to get a tr based off of picking shadow sounded to me like you were trying to dismiss it as a scummy thought.
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Post Post #3224 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:02 am

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In post 3218, Kagami wrote:This game needs more voting, or more suicide.

I remain of the opinion that jester-mds is the most likely to get a scum-flip. I'm willing to go smith as well.

I'm probably not going to compromise on shadow-maria vs intermission unless there's something I'm missing beyond that they're terrible.
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