New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball - [Game Over]

[Human Sequencer]

Arthur, what do you think of Parama? Do you think she's scum for pushing you, or just bad?

[Human Sequencer]

nvm reread, you clearly think he's scum.

[Human Sequencer]

Parama/Arthur are opposite alignments.

[Human Sequencer]

Oh nothing

You just agree with everything I'm saying in thread and have the same thoughts as me AND think I'm town but yet don't want to partner up

make out already

Okay I actually read.

If Shadow flips scum, I will be hardcore pushing Parama.

I can also possibly see an MDS-mhsmith scumpair.

Shadow flipped town, arthur is hardcore pushing Parama.
Smith, Pie, Scout. Can I please have one word answers on the alignment of Parama and Arthur?
Town, Null/Unsure or Scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Well it's not like I came into this day with the intention of hardcore pushing Parama. I doubted my read on her during night, and I thought there was a good possibility she was town who just pushed Shadow wrongly like I did.

But then the combination of her coming right off the bat with a bs case on me + diffusion of responsibility and trying to blame shadow lynch on other people/shadow himself solidified to me that what she was doing is trying to push another mislynch like she did with Shadow, trying to brute force her way into endgame by buddying and calling her lover hardcore town, and pushing wagons elsewhere on town. Her push does not look like it's coming from a town mindset, like do you honestly think she believes half of what she's saying?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Also if you're looking for meta on me, you won't find much recent since coming back from haitus except for this game:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=69183

I have a bunch of older games, most of them I think are linked in my wiki page (but it kinda needs updating). If you're looking for a scum game, here's the one I'm most proud of on this site, in which I basically single-handedly carried the scum team:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=24646

[Kagami]

Need to think about this and reread. Weekend is crazy so far.

UNVOTE:

[Human Sequencer]

But then the combination of her coming right off the bat with a bs case on me + diffusion of responsibility and trying to blame shadow lynch on other people/shadow himself solidified to me that what she was doing is trying to push another mislynch like she did with Shadow, trying to brute force her way into endgame by buddying and calling her lover hardcore town, and pushing wagons elsewhere on town. Her push does not look like it's coming from a town mindset, like do you honestly think she believes half of what she's saying?

His case on you may not be agreeable, but it's definitely not a surprise nor did it come out of nowhere. He has been scumreading you for the whole game.
Do you think the diffusion of responsibility is alignment indicative?

You calling out Parama for buddying my reads doesn't read like an original thought, it looks like you're reinforcing something I wrote earlier. It reads to me like you're trying to confirm my earlier suspicions and sway me towards a parama lynch.
Again, Parama has been townreading me for a very long time.

[Human Sequencer]

Need to think about this and reread. Weekend is crazy so far.

UNVOTE:

Nothing really notable has changed since your last post. What prompted you to change your mind and unvote?

[Kagami]

VOTE: jester-mds

[Kagami]

Thought they were L-1 or 2

[Human Sequencer]

Jester/MDS is now at l-2, for reference.

The only vote change since the last vote count was me unvoting myself. Where did you get that idea from? If you haven't read the thread since you last posted, you shouldn't know whether MDS voted herself or not, which she did, which is what put her to l-2.

The only other place I can guess you'd get that knowledge from is a private topic. Did Dunn tell you something like that? Mafia PT?

[Human Sequencer]

Okay, that's horrible. Kagami needs to go sooner or later.

Pie/Smith is the T/T pair. Lynch everybody else.

[inspectorscout]

Oh nothing

You just agree with everything I'm saying in thread and have the same thoughts as me AND think I'm town but yet don't want to partner up

make out already

Okay I actually read.

If Shadow flips scum, I will be hardcore pushing Parama.

I can also possibly see an MDS-mhsmith scumpair.

Shadow flipped town, arthur is hardcore pushing Parama.
Smith, Pie, Scout. Can I please have one word answers on the alignment of Parama and Arthur?
Town, Null/Unsure or Scum.

both are okay-ish, way more okay with parama than arthur atm but parama's push on arthur was shit

[Parama]

if pie/smith and me/hs were the last two pairs alive i'd lynch them, but otherwise pie/smith is a decent shot for a t/t pair

i still think jester/mds as t/t is more likely though, especially if sad flips scum

[Human Sequencer]

@scout nonono
that's not what i asked
here i'll give you a random example

Parama: Town
Arthur: Null

[Parama]

It's like you're having a private competition with yourself to one up every previous post you made with a more scummy one.

it's only scummy if you think mds in particular is scum with one of pie/smith.

do you think this is the case?

[Parama]

an analysis of parama's read progression on cerb:

186 implies cerb being scum is unlikely
435 'Cerb is town because shadow scumslipped it' (this continues for 1500 posts)
1901 'Cerb is obvtown because of his posts'
2522 'I don't agree with HS reading Cerb as scum'
later just before the shadow lynch he changed his mind to 'eeehhhhhhhhhhhhh cerb might be scum'

parama's 'shadow scumslip' relies on shadow being scum who knows that cerb is town, yet he sits on the shadow wagon whilst also privately going along with my retarded cerb scumread to pocket me

if parama is town i will lose my mind D:

i mean i really did not like this post:

Naw Parama, just had a stupid gut suspicion regarding both of you honestly, which I was never able to go research so fuck it, I'm happy with you gone.

Plus you're the pair who, as a whole, will remove the most bloat from the game. :p

i still really do not like this post tbh it's like awful

[Parama]

that's a -lot- of suspicion towards arthur and not a lot towards parama

gee willikers it's almost like arthur is the scum

[Parama]

Vedith was scumreading Arthur pretty hard.
Another nugget of info from Vedith.

Kagami - I keep trying to see a reason to see Kagami as scum, but I really don't see it. If it ever fell to no scum in me/Gamma/Maria/Shadow then Kagami would be number 1 choice in my books, but as I strongly believe there is scum in our 2 pairs, Kagami seems like a solid town for me.

i'm sorry i ever said anything bad about vedith he was obvtown and his reads were on point
shame he had to suicide because of gamma

[Parama]

Need to think about this and reread. Weekend is crazy so far.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: jester-mds

Thought they were L-1 or 2

holy crap kill this with fire

okay yeah
calling it now: MDS/Jester T/T 100%
SAD + Kagami + smith I guess?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It's like you're having a private competition with yourself to one up every previous post you made with a more scummy one.

it's only scummy if you think mds in particular is scum with one of pie/smith.

do you think this is the case?

Yes I've already said MDS-mhsmith is strong possibility.

[Parama]

okay fair enough then
if smith is town, is it scummy?

[inspectorscout]

@scout nonono
that's not what i asked
here i'll give you a random example

Parama: Town
Arthur: Null

Fuck off with your misrep bait
I gave my opinion, take it or leave it.


Why is there suddenly the trendto see mhsmith-pie as town? That's the worst assumption you can make.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

okay fair enough then
if smith is town, is it scummy?

Well it's def anti-town. Too many people are going "mhsmith/pie are the town pair lets just lynch through the rest of the player list" making me think scum are trying to propel them easily to endgame while looking like they're making townie idea by identifying a town pair. It puts little effort into actually scumhunting but masks itself as ~contribution~.