Mini 1857 Mafia Thread

[Sesq]

What do people stay? I'm planning to open with "VOTE: Titus, still looks scummy af, we should start looking into others in the meantime" and redirect that to you
what do people flag you as in games?

[Raskolnikov]

For associations, scumreading someone but ignoring them or pushing elsewhere is actually the most common thing scum do.

Typical scum play is putting partners at null or nullscum

In general voting one person while telling people to look at others is kind of a contradiction because people generally focus on what they vote and vote what they want to focus on

[Raskolnikov]

How I would personally play the day is wait until a few posts (by then someone likely already votes titus or talks about why she's alive) and probably just vote me with an issue or so

you can still scumread titus but use the excuse of there already being votes on her to vote me over her when both are scumreads

[Raskolnikov]

remember that the DAY tends to last a week minimum even a wagon comes up super fast and to L-1

so helping put that early wagon there right away doesn't actually do much when the lynch is usually not decided for a while yet

I mean look at yesterday and how despite all the wagons it was gerryoat in the end.

[Sesq]

no, i'm not opening with a scummy look on you
i want to encourage people to look at others in general, prob. make a point about how we shouldn't ignore old scumreads
it could gain me newbtown points and also have some good associations if i bring you up which is what i plan

[Raskolnikov]

I mean bringing someone up but pushing somewhere else is a big partner tell more than either straight up scumreading or townreading them but whatever

[Raskolnikov]

well we can win without doing that, it'll just be a bit harder

Assuming we get to 5p lylo there's 3 town there,

each of them see 4 other people, i.e. 6 possible "teams".

then weigh each team vs one another. rask-sesq will get brought up here, and the difference will be
"Okay that's actually very possible, they've never actually tried to lynch one on another or hard townread either, there's not much there"
VS
"well that's not impossible but yesterday their interaction looked pretty real so it looks pretty unlikely"

[Raskolnikov]

it's not even about a read/push though it's about an interaction that sounds real

and you don't have an interaction by just saying other people should look at me, thats like a classic partner tell if anything because the obvious response is "why don't you do it yourself if you're so concerned?"

[Raskolnikov]

that feel when you're too townread to bus because people would wonder why the fk you're still alive

[Raskolnikov]

raskolnikov kills TTTT, rolecops Shadonra

can i get an action received pls

[Raskolnikov]

sesq I want to strong townread you for the rest of the game but it's hard if you don't scumread or push me to balance it out and give me things I could use as as a basis for it

"this guys is pushing me but doing it in a very town way" is something I can definitely use for a read, especially if I start to act upset or mad at you for "misreading" me

[Raskolnikov]

well you don't have to, but if you change your mind

valid points about my game here, which still don't make me look terrible:

-Why did I scumread shannon so hard but later completely stopped pushing her?

-I said I scumread TTTT but when shannon voted him I complained and didnt join her

-How could I townread both titus and shadonra when titus claims a guilty on him

-I lurk a lot and post every second day a lot at once instead of being around a lot, for this you can use actual activity dates from the posts and quote them

-later after i defend myself you can just say you don't like my style and im an experienced player which makes me dangerous

Of course you would want to spread these out for maximum benefit, saying more than one might be uncharacteristic, look obviously coached and/or is just a waste of ammunition

[Sesq]

OK, what I'm currently planning with you is this:

-Vote titus first off, ask people to start thinking about all candidates equally, might make a nudge towards you
-Hope someone brings you up, if they do I'll follow, if not I'll start pressing you
-Profit

So I do plan to end up pushing you some way. I'll find my way.

[JaeReed]

raskolnikov kills TTTT, rolecops Shadonra

can i get an action received pls

Received.

[Raskolnikov]

OK, what I'm currently planning with you is this:

-Vote titus first off, ask people to start thinking about all candidates equally, might make a nudge towards you
-Hope someone brings you up, if they do I'll follow, if not I'll start pressing you
-Profit

So I do plan to end up pushing you some way. I'll find my way.

well you get less points for following something than starting it

and I 100% absolutely guarantee, hell I would bet the game on it, that people will naturally start suspecting titus first thing tomorrow. Doctor flip is really bad for her trust me. Actually I was going to be talking about titus too a bit and make a big fuss about being paranoid about her now.

[Sesq]

OK, what I'm currently planning with you is this:

-Vote titus first off, ask people to start thinking about all candidates equally, might make a nudge towards you
-Hope someone brings you up, if they do I'll follow, if not I'll start pressing you
-Profit

So I do plan to end up pushing you some way. I'll find my way.

well you get less points for following something than starting it

and I 100% absolutely guarantee, hell I would bet the game on it, that people will naturally start suspecting titus first thing tomorrow. Doctor flip is really bad for her trust me. Actually I was going to be talking about titus too a bit and make a big fuss about being paranoid about her now.

Well, I think if I push it it might look as forced later. This feels like a safer route

And by following, it could also include me pushing more (which is what I plan.)

[Raskolnikov]

oh okay. yeah if it ends up looking forced it's not worth it.

[Raskolnikov]

haha this nk will probably backfire so much

but the reactions should be funny

[Raskolnikov]

Well glad to see TTTT flip town because I doubt all town lynched LUV. Titus or Drone today imo. Working on colored VCs as we speak

Oh yeah I forgot about this! It was even intentional but I still forgot about it.

it's okay we had contingency plans exactly for this moment

outsmarted ourselves

[Raskolnikov]

see it's not about being evil, it's about teaching people lessons like why 99% of VCA is garbage and should only be done by trained professionals

I actually can't stand it. if I was town I'd be ranting so hard about the VCA logic (and people would probably scumread me for it LOL)

[Raskolnikov]

Well glad to see TTTT flip town because I doubt all town lynched LUV. Titus or Drone today imo. Working on colored VCs as we speak

I'd say if only 1 its more likely Drone because Titus wouldn't make the VCA on LUV lynch so obviously point to them fmpov
VOTE: Drone

Also there was a strongman

No roleblocker means no result was not possible for titus unless shadonra is somehow ascetic or untargetable
VOTE: Titus
Titus today, shadonra tomorrow if titus is town

ahhhhhhh it's beautiful

like clockwork

[Raskolnikov]

yeah this is what I meant about doctor, the "wow so many PRs" but the strongman>roleblock thing

Also a NUANCE we have here

gerryoat flip confirms strongman, NOT roleblocker.

I.E. TITUS vs Shadonra

also didn't write this but literally pictured kyouko as the guy who probably notices/points it out

he's a smart cookie and very observant, just still lacking a lil bit of experience

you could say, a bit "green" heh

[Raskolnikov]

well, way too early to count this as a win still, still have to get through today and our associations are super open for tomorrow

I'll be coming in tomorrow

[Raskolnikov]

I wonder who titus JK'd

Anyways good night

[Raskolnikov]

@Jaereed

can I copy paste from a post of mine here into the main thread?
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