In Memory

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:41 pm

In post 3919, The DEO wrote:I do not wish to lynch zefiend. Titus does. Mhsmith is the one place we agree.

So if you're against a zef lynch, why are you accepting of him being at l-1? Feels like pushing for my lynch, even if I'm not a current wagon, would be the productive thing to do given your shared reads and it being nowhere near EOD.

The DEO · Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:43 pm

In post 3925, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3919, The DEO wrote:I do not wish to lynch zefiend. Titus does. Mhsmith is the one place we agree.
So if you're against a zef lynch, why are you accepting of him being at l-1? Feels like pushing for my lynch, even if I'm not a current wagon, would be the productive thing to do given your shared reads and it being nowhere near EOD.

We are, but this is near the end of the organic thread. The thread has decided to spare you, for God only knows what reason.

Alisae · Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:43 pm

Wait Zefiend is at L-1?

Postie · Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:44 pm

Wait, zef's at L-1?

p-edit omg

The DEO · Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:44 pm

In post 3927, Alisae wrote:Wait Zefiend is at L-1?

I think he is.

Mod vc please

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:44 pm

Out of curiosity, do you actually think I'm scum covering for drealz the sk in thread? That seems... bizarre. Why do you think it's a reasonable idea?

The DEO · Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:45 pm

...I literally just got online. Again I do not think zefiend is scum but I haven't had a chance to type it out. I am not at home to use my notes. I was going a sneak check like I sometimes do.

I think we shot not lynch the person scum likely shot.

Until someone can explain N2's only death without saying scum shot Lycanfire because that to me is a load of crap zefiend should not be lynched as zefiend was likely shot.

~~Math

The DEO · Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:46 pm

In post 3930, mhsmith0 wrote:Out of curiosity, do you actually think I'm scum covering for drealz the sk in thread? That seems... bizarre. Why do you think it's a reasonable idea?

Yes I do.

Because scum likely need the KPN.
It is literally a matter of survival.

It is mutually assured alliance til one or the other kills you both when he game feels winnable.
Houdini was known for massive preparation and being a solo act.

~~Math

Postie · Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:46 pm

Math, what if the Bulletproof claim is a fakeclaim and the person who stopped the kill either didn't know they stopped it or doesn't want to out their role?

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:47 pm

If scum used vanillaizer on lycan, why do you think they wouldn't just shoot him too? It seems like a power use that has no point beyond making sure he can't use his death power.

JaeReed · Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:50 pm

Could have been in prep for a mislynch on Lycan that would be forced through with the boring non-flip. Keeps confirmed town from finding the scum pushing them.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:50 pm

Like, if I'm scum the LAST thing I'd do is use a vanillaizer power on a player who has a conditional death power but shoot elsewhere. It's a total waste of a power to use it there while not killing him, when if you use it on someone else you might block a power that actively useful. Personally I think it's silly to use it on him on the first place, especially given the lack of hard knowledge about boring flip, but it's like 10x stupider to use it there while not killing him, which is essentially just wasting the shot.

The DEO · Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:50 pm

In post 3933, Postie wrote:Math, what if the Bulletproof claim is a fakeclaim and the person who stopped the kill either didn't know they stopped it or doesn't want to out their role?

That person would be arguing adamantly in their "gut" zefiend was lying or scum. Neither of those are happen. People believe it sure but no one is adamant about it enough for that to be the case.

Because no one is tunneling I don't buy that.
~~Math

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:51 pm

In post 3935, JaeReed wrote:Could have been in prep for a mislynch on Lycan that would be forced through with the boring non-flip. Keeps confirmed town from finding the scum pushing them.

That's a good argument for scum not shooting him. I fail to see why it's a good argument for scum blowing a vanillaizer shot on him.

The DEO · Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:51 pm

In post 3934, mhsmith0 wrote:If scum used vanillaizer on lycan, why do you think they wouldn't just shoot him too? It seems like a power use that has no point beyond making sure he can't use his death power.

Because it would be a waste.

They can't have and have not paid attention to the thread.

Drealmerz claimed to be able to vig Lycan right around the same post as Lycan.

Scum would not waste a bullet.

~~Math

The DEO · Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:52 pm

The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math

Postie · Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:53 pm

In post 3937, The DEO wrote:That person would be arguing adamantly in their "gut" zefiend was lying or scum. Neither of those are happen. People believe it sure but no one is adamant about it enough for that to be the case.

Because no one is tunneling I don't buy that.
~~Math

But what if they didn't

know

they stopped it? I can't think of any off the top of my head but I'm sure it's possible to have a role like that.

Ehh. Either way I'm fine lynching smith at this point too I guess.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:53 pm

In post 3939, The DEO wrote:
In post 3934, mhsmith0 wrote:If scum used vanillaizer on lycan, why do you think they wouldn't just shoot him too? It seems like a power use that has no point beyond making sure he can't use his death power.
Because it would be a waste.

They can't have and have not paid attention to the thread.

Drealmerz claimed to be able to vig Lycan right around the same post as Lycan.

Scum would not waste a bullet.

~~Math

So why would they waste a vanillaizer shot? If the kill frames drealz, it makes more sense to let lycan stump and potentially push on drealz for the shot.

Alisae · Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:54 pm

In post 3940, The DEO wrote:The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math

inb4 he actually got vanillized.

JaeReed · Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:55 pm

It's a fine argument for them vanillaizing him. Lycan gets pushed and can sort the town and scum on his wagon while being confirmed town to lead. Vanillaized when he's lynched he just disappears and they only have to deal with unconfirmed living players.

The DEO · Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:56 pm

Because he was claimed delayed death.

~~Math

mhsmith0 · Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 3940, The DEO wrote:The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math

What? He's dying anyway (delayed death bit), what's the scum upside to having him non stump? Why aren't scum using that vanillaizer power on someone whose power is unknown or might not suck?

JaeReed · Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 3943, Alisae wrote:
In post 3940, The DEO wrote:The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math
inb4 he actually got vanillized.

?

Of course Lycan was vanillized. He wasn't able to post the next day when he was supposed to be delayed death.

That has nothing to do with the post you quoted?

The DEO · Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 3946, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 3940, The DEO wrote:The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math
What? He's dying anyway (delayed death bit), what's the scum upside to having him non stump? Why aren't scum using that vanillaizer power on someone whose power is unknown or might not suck?

1) Frame Drealmerz.
2) Unknown dictator ability.

Alisae · Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:59 pm

In post 3947, JaeReed wrote:
In post 3943, Alisae wrote:
In post 3940, The DEO wrote:The vanillized makes sure he dies and frames Drealmerz. It is a matter of bullet economics.

~~Math
inb4 he actually got vanillized.
?

Of course Lycan was vanillized. He wasn't able to post the next day when he was supposed to be delayed death.

That has nothing to do with the post you quoted?

I mean drealmerz not Lycan.