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[The DEO]

how the fuck does the setup-spec make sense with town having multiple kill utility and scum don't get a N1 ???

that would lean me to thinking that the double-voter would be more likely scum-aligned

Vigilante (regardless of holder) is usually considered negative utility in a game with zero mechanically confirmed town. Most shots will be on town.

BP is almost certainly a scum role, Math's paranoia not withstanding. The dopeman tells me so.

Setup spec bad. 4 brains good.

[Creature]

tbh I didn't understand Frozen so much.

[Creature]

Also, what roles are killing utilities?

[Frozen Angel]

how the fuck does the setup-spec make sense with town having multiple kill utility and scum don't get a N1 ???

that would lean me to thinking that the double-voter would be more likely scum-aligned

why do you think they didn't counter claim you?

Think that through, go do some researches and list possibilities, then look at your notes

you will figure it out eventually.

[Alisae]

Hmmm, well idk.

So you throw reads around, but you don't know why you gave the reads in the first place........uh huh...got it.

[Creature]

Sometimes when someone questions it I start questioning myself.

[Alisae]

I know that feeling because I do that too
That doesn't make it a good feeling
also your reason why you TR Vedith back then is terrible.
but also mshmith asking you to recall why you gave them a TR all the way back then is also terrible.

[mhsmith0]

but also mshmith asking you to recall why you gave them a TR all the way back then is also terrible.

Why? There were only 400 posts up to that point, and a distinct minority by vedith . It is perfectly reasonable for creature to be able to look at that game state and offer an informed opinion of what he was likely thinking, and it is perfectly forme toask himabout this.

[ɀefiend]

Why the fuck would I exit the game as scum? BP presumably helps me survive until my time to exit, and I also have one other ability for surviving which I WON'T be outing -- can absolutely not trust FA now that she's hinted at other killing roles.

When I exit I return to my entry state of not being able to talk in the game thread, but I do get to join a neighborhood "associated with my past."

I'm not surprised by FA's sudden push on me after feeling pressure. She's backed herself into a place where she's trying to piece together a picture consistent with all the bullshit she's suggested this game. Her ultimate reason is that "BP {= scum". Her engagement with drealmerz was detracting from actual game content and deconstructive. This is terrible and needs to die.

VOTE: FrozenAngel

[Alisae]

but also mshmith asking you to recall why you gave them a TR all the way back then is also terrible.

Why? There were only 400 posts up to that point, and a distinct minority by vedith . It is perfectly reasonable for creature to be able to look at that game state and offer an informed opinion of what he was likely thinking, and it is perfectly forme toask himabout this.

And why would you ask him about this?

[Frozen Angel]

What is exiting the game? silence or treestump or something else? If its silence why your not full claiming it and why you didn't claim it before?

I'm definitely not terrible and yeah I need to die, Not today though. I have hard evidence that the other player with killing ability is town. Drealm is not making sense as mafia so that means 2 extra kills. BP is more likely scum in this scenario and it's definitely negative utility.

[mhsmith0]

but also mshmith asking you to recall why you gave them a TR all the way back then is also terrible.

Why? There were only 400 posts up to that point, and a distinct minority by vedith . It is perfectly reasonable for creature to be able to look at that game state and offer an informed opinion of what he was likely thinking, and it is perfectly forme toask himabout this.

And why would you ask him about this?

1) vedith slot flipped scum and creature had an early town read there
2) I wanted to talk about something other than the transparently unproductive dreal vs FA fight

Why exactly do you think it was bad of me to ask him this? Your questioning of me on this matter suggests that you think something was wrong with my questioning, so what's the issue w it?

[Frozen Angel]

and I was voting you before - I unvoted you to understand math pov and to put everything together, my revote on you is after a long hidden conversation in my neighborhood with postie.

Nice bullshit though : her interactions with drealm is destructive and she is terrible and needs to die. I'm not going down today sir. I have too many connections, I'm conftown to some and some others must be able to understand what was you are calling "her bullshit".

[Alisae]

but also mshmith asking you to recall why you gave them a TR all the way back then is also terrible.

Why? There were only 400 posts up to that point, and a distinct minority by vedith . It is perfectly reasonable for creature to be able to look at that game state and offer an informed opinion of what he was likely thinking, and it is perfectly forme toask himabout this.

And why would you ask him about this?

1) vedith slot flipped scum and creature had an early town read there
2) I wanted to talk about something other than the transparently unproductive dreal vs FA fight

Why exactly do you think it was bad of me to ask him this? Your questioning of me on this matter suggests that you think something was wrong with my questioning, so what's the issue w it?

A. I don't really see how it's relevant at this moment.
B. For some reason I get the feeling you're trying reach for something to make a push off of.

[drealmerz7]

no, he's just trying to get you to play

[mhsmith0]

Fwiw, I'm also trying to see if I've incorrectly written alisae off as lynchbait. In a game where I've been struggling to get scumreads, the idea occurs as possible. Ditto the creature stuff, though there it was more the role claim and pro town power causing me to write him off.

[Alisae]

Fwiw, I'm also trying to see if I've incorrectly written alisae off as lynchbait. In a game where I've been struggling to get scumreads, the idea occurs as possible. Ditto the creature stuff, though there it was more the role claim and pro town power causing me to write him off.

eww...
A. scum can act like lynchbait too. So the fact that you were only TRing me because I was lynchbait is eww. Also makes me think you never had a read on Gamma when he was playing.
B. You're really trying to reach for a reason to SR me.

[drealmerz7]

I'm leaning towards creature being 3p but ...
OHHH, question for mod:

Setup Information:

1) The setup is confirmed as having 11 Town-Aligned players and 3 Scum-Aligned players. The 15th player's alignment may be {Town, Scum, Serial Killer}. Traitors and similar count as scum.

@mod - does a neutral survivor, or non-killing 3rd party role count as "scum" ?

[Alisae]

Also Zef's vote onto the FA wagon is probably the most sus thing ever.

[drealmerz7]

you calling the votes on FA a "wagon" is an exaggeration, unless I have my count wrong

[mhsmith0]

Fwiw, I'm also trying to see if I've incorrectly written alisae off as lynchbait. In a game where I've been struggling to get scumreads, the idea occurs as possible. Ditto the creature stuff, though there it was more the role claim and pro town power causing me to write him off.

eww...
A. scum can act like lynchbait too. So the fact that you were only TRing me because I was lynchbait is eww. Also makes me think you never had a read on Gamma when he was playing.
B. You're really trying to reach for a reason to SR me.

1) I wasn't sure about gamma when he was playing.
2) if and when I express an active SR on you, you'll know.
What was wrong w my questioning of creature again?

[Alisae]

You, DEO, and Zef are on that wagon, no?

pedit: 4288

[Creature]

@mod - does a neutral survivor, or non-killing 3rd party role count as "scum" ?

If this was the case, then why did the mod listed {Town, Scum, SK} and not just {Town, Scum}?

[Creature]

And no, I'm not a star that throws solar rays on someone.

[RadiantCowbells]

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