Micro 674 9:12 Dream Mafia. Game over

[Alisae]

I think you're scum and you jump on me.
Cool.

[Alisae]

Here, let me give you some ammo
VOTE: BTD

[gerryoat]

Okay so you hammered BTD without claim. But it's ok he's maf with TPA

[hapahauli]

Go ahead and lynch Alisae tomorrow bee-tee-dubs.

Hopefully I'll see y'all on the flipside.

[Alisae]

Go ahead and lynch Alisae tomorrow bee-tee-dubs.

Hopefully I'll see y'all on the flipside.

So you were so sure that BTD is scum and now I'm getting the impression your read suddenly changed?
Huh, that's wierd.

[hapahauli]

If you've read literally anything I've posted over the last 8 hours, you'd know that I think you're both mafia.

[Alisae]

So you think scum would hammer their buddy in this situation?

[hapahauli]

Yeah.

[Alisae]

Hold on, I'm not understanding you.
There's 9 players.
So it's likely to be 7v2.
And you think scum would be so obvious to hammer their scumbuddy and then get lynched the next day.
Wouldn't that be playing against a scum's wincon?

[hapahauli]

Your plan:

"Imma going to push other townies, and see what sticks."
"Ah shit, BTD is going down."
"Welp, let's make the best of a bad situation - bus him for town-cred, and shut down discussion for the rest of the day!"
"Lol Hapa, I can't possibly be scum in this situation!"

I think that's pretty believable.

Evidence that points in favor of this.
1) You weren't suspicious of BTD all day.
2) The main reason you want to lynch BTD is to "give me ammo", which is absurd.
3) You wanted BTD to claim. Then you got impatient and went back on your word.

Hell, regardless of what BTD flips, this makes you look bad.

[hapahauli]

To add to #3, it shows that you're not scared at all of the BTD flip, despite you bringing up the power role claim. That's no-bueno.

[Alisae]

You're not answering my question of how I'm playing against a scum's wincon by hammering my scum buddy right now.
And aren't plans general for things that didn't happen before the events actually happen but you plan for what will happen in the future?
As for the 2nd point, didn't Grey do the exact same thing earlier?

And you're right, I'm not scared of what BTD will flip. Hell, you've been deathtunneling myslot and BTD for about the whole game. What will a town!BTD flip tell you, not about other players, but about yourself.

[hapahauli]

The only reason why I voted Hap was because of the poetry shit.
The fact they stopped doing it after I voted them cause they seemed like they were putting more effort into ryhming says either I caught it or they just want to be helpful to teh town and try not to hurt it as much.

So here, let me give Hap more ammo

Intent to Hammer

Claim in your next post

Do you think it is impossible for mafia to vote for their partner?

The wincon is straightforward. Both of you are the major lynch candidates. Your best chance of surviving is to make some play to distance yourselves from each other. I.e., one of you hammering the other and insisting till the bitter end that "scum can't possibly do that to each other."

I've seen scum hammer buddies many times. Many many times. Have you not?

[hapahauli]

Anyways, no sense in arguing with mafia. I've said all that I need to say.

Good luck!

[The Poetic Assassin]

Okay so you hammered BTD without claim. But it's ok he's maf with TPA

Why am I Scum again?

[Alisae]

A. Obviously they can.
B. My lolhammer makes me "obvious scum" does it not? If so, and BTD were to flip red, then I am most likely the most obvious lynch for tomorrow. Knowing this, why would scum attempt to distance themselves by hammering? That's playing against their wincon.

[Alisae]

Also you still never addressed the point of Grey saying the exact same thing and my question of what will BTD's town flip tell specificly you.
I think you're just straight up conf biasing.

[The Poetic Assassin]

I deliberately voted Alisae so that I WOULDN't be hammering Maker with more than half the day left. :/ Maker better be Scum dammit.

[The Poetic Assassin]

A. Obviously they can.
B. My lolhammer makes me "obvious scum" does it not? If so, and BTD were to flip red, then I am most likely the most obvious lynch for tomorrow. Knowing this, why would scum attempt to distance themselves by hammering? That's playing against their wincon.

This smells of BS completely. Going against their win con? I don't fucking think so.

[Alisae]

Don't worry
no one is gonna lose sleep over my lynch anyway.

[The Poetic Assassin]

Also really sounds like Alisae knows for a fact that Maker is going to flip red. We'll see.

[Alisae]

TPA in Hap's eyes, he sees me as scum hammering their buddy.
If we were to both flip scum, I would be playing against my wincon.
Especially since I'm getting lynched without a doubt tomorrow.

[The Poetic Assassin]

Your plan:

"Imma going to push other townies, and see what sticks."
"Ah shit, BTD is going down."
"Welp, let's make the best of a bad situation - bus him for town-cred, and shut down discussion for the rest of the day!"
"Lol Hapa, I can't possibly be scum in this situation!"

I think that's pretty believable.

Evidence that points in favor of this.
1) You weren't suspicious of BTD all day.
2) The main reason you want to lynch BTD is to "give me ammo", which is absurd.
3) You wanted BTD to claim. Then you got impatient and went back on your word.

Hell, regardless of what BTD flips, this makes you look bad.

Yeah, I have to agree with this.

Hap if you are Scum here, you go on my "never trust" list.

[Alisae]

dw Hap.
I'll have tonight to come up with the most stunning fake claim for you so that you can CC it

[Alisae]

btw tomorrow is lylo