Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 1.33

Yuri (8):

Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, beeboy, Fro99er, The DEO, Nero Cain, Leonshade

beeboy (5):

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Yuri, Albert B. Rampage, Spiffeh

Vecna (2):

Caesar Wills It, NoticeMeSenpai

Creature (1):

davesaz

davesaz (1):

Creature

Sondam (1):

Drixx

ssbm_Kyouko (1):

Maxous

NoticeMeSenpai (1):

Elbirn

Not Voting (1):

Sondam

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to to lynch.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-21 10:05:30), at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Fro99er]

Spiff I thought you wanted to pressure ssbm

As far as I know ssbm hasn't posted since my "case" on them and it's useless to pressure a slot that is completely absent

What is this even supposed to mean anyway? From your eyes I wasn't pressuring ssbm while parked on the Yuri wagon so why is this something you're only bringing up now?

Because I'm wondering since you went off beeboy and on to ssbm then why go back to beeboy instead of ssbm

Why are you so cranky?

[Vecna]

Most games are ongoing.

But if you feel you have to make an apology for inactivity you are lurking.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=28406

Will read the other games later.

~~Math

92 is a shade post and partially why I scumread LUV. It is a negative post that shades the entire game, suggests we won't lynch scum and that if he doesn't get what he wants right now the world ends. It is less than 100 posts into the game. Way too early for doomsday scenarios.

~~Math

Dont think ive seen LUV shade anyone in PYP....he was very very non-confrontational.

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

[Spiffeh]

Frog are you really still scum reading Yuri after their recent posts?

Like I can understand "no change" but I think it's weird that people are still trying to pass off their recent content as scummy (AHEM BEEBOY).

[davesaz]

@davesaz what games have you misread me in?

I don't

remember

having a correct read on you ever. But TBH I'd have to actually look at old games to know for sure.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spiffy probably isn't town.

[Spiffeh]

beeboy is my largest scum read and I want him lynched

That is why

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: beeboy

Guys this is a good point to cite in the "Yuri Spiffeh connection case"

I just made the beeboy wagon viable again in an effort to save my scumbuddy Yuri

Go nuts

Great vote! More votes on Beeboy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

Examples?

[Spiffeh]

Spiffy probably isn't town.

You probably need to stop posting.

[Fro99er]

Frog are you really still scum reading Yuri after their recent posts?

Like I can understand "no change" but I think it's weird that people are still trying to pass off their recent content as scummy (AHEM BEEBOY).

No, I didn't pick up any new stuff from Yuri's recent posts

[Maxous]

I see all these "null reads" on Kyouko.
But there's not enough information to read him!
Complete rubbish.
these "null reads" are first on my list for scum buddies.

[The DEO]

beeboy is my largest scum read and I want him lynched

That is why

Well great, come back later when you're wrong and actually listen to your townreads.

You know why LUV suspects you? You are putting your own opinion above your townreads rather than picking a mutual read.

[davesaz]

Can I have a quick case on Beeboy?
No reaction to my assertion that Creature's "activity" is nothing more than baseless "opinions"?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spiffy probably isn't town.

You probably need to stop posting.

Maybe after you're lynched.

[Akane and Nebby]

I see all these "null reads" on Kyouko.
But there's not enough information to read him!
Complete rubbish.
these "null reads" are first on my list for scum buddies.

Yo I see a bunch of complaining but not enough of the doing things.
Doing thing with it.

-Nebby

[The DEO]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

Examples?

Making sense is not a reason to townread someone. I make sense as either alignment if I am in the right state of mind. (Insert ABR objection so he doesn't have to post)

[The DEO]

Can I have a quick case on Beeboy?
No reaction to my assertion that Creature's "activity" is nothing more than baseless "opinions"?

Playstyle not AI. He's pushing for what he wants. He's town, you're town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We're going to create a town block. Spiffeh. Fro99er. Daveasz. Peregrine. Maxou. A few more spots are open, don't miss this opportunity!

[The DEO]

We're going to create a town block. Spiffeh. Fro99er. Daveasz. Peregrine. Maxou. A few more spots are open, don't miss this opportunity!

Sorry ABR. You and Peregrine are out. The block is already formed.

[Spiffeh]

You know why LUV suspects you? You are putting your own opinion above your townreads rather than picking a mutual read.

You were in The Thing, Titus.

Welcome to my town game. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.

And either way, I resent that. I listened to the Yuri case and agreed with some of the points. I understand the suspicion there. But Yuri's recent posts come across as pretty town to me and beeboy has always been my preference so I'm voting there instead.

Don't try and guilt trip me because I don't have the utmost faith in my town reads. I never do. I don't care if that makes me a selfish player, it's just how I am.

[Fro99er]

{A+N}
{DEO, Elbirn, PV}
{Vecna, LUV}
{Drixx, Spiff}
{Creature, Nero}
{ABR, davesaz, ssbm} <-- null line
{Caesar, Sondam, Leonshade}
{Notice}
{Maxous}
{Beeboy}
{Yuri}

Why is PV so high?

Because I townread him.

I don't see scum motivation, even if he and Titus are butting heads.

Why are you town reading him so strongly?

Because he's making sense

Examples?

Making sense is not a reason to townread someone. I make sense as either alignment if I am in the right state of mind. (Insert ABR objection so he doesn't have to post)

You're right, it's not.

I just don't feel like going through why right now on PV, especially on mobile, because it's not going to help us lynch scum right now.

I should probably re-evaluate my PV read anyway, because the only meta I have with him is when he's more direct attacking as town.

[Vecna]

I am not. ABR can be protown. I just realize he is different than me.
He finds things he believes, says quirky one liners about it, then pushes it until he either sees A) they are Town or B) lynches and gets a flip.
He did the exact same with D&D.
ABR can and will be protown and as much as he scumreads us then it is still protown so others understand we are Town. I have no problems with him hunting is.

~~Math

Here you are, creating a fucking narrative for him rather than actually talking to your hydra partner and letting him post.

This doesn't help anyone see ABR as town, particularly coming from you since you're confbiased to hell. ABR has to do this himself.

You defending everyone who you don't want lynched isn't persuading anyone. It's just lengthening the game and stopping town from reaching our own conclusion.

You know, im actually gonna formally request you to let mathblade talk Titus.

I think its refreshing and he's probably right about at least a few things.

In the end I think it probably works out best if you both just share your opinions in here and let the rest pick out the argument they like.

Id probably like that more than this scenario where you lock eachother up and alternate. Youve been doing it for a while now, and I think it works fine.

[Fro99er]

VOTE: Beeboy

Spiffeh is making a lot of sense