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Post Post #9225 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:19 am

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@CloudKicker
: I've talked about my scumread on Kyouko before, the fact that you haven't been openly scummy hasn't made me reconsider my read.

You seem to be confbiasing your scumread on me based on a couple posts. It's almost too obvious, like you're trying to come off as confbiased town (and you even go for the self-aware/pre-emptive defense on your OMGUS so you know what you're doing).
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Post Post #9226 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:21 am

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lol those 2 things doesnt work, if i really wanted to comes off as confibiasing town i wouldnt have made the omgus comment, also its pretty stupid to say that im looking like confbiasing town but im mefia for it
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Post Post #9227 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:21 am

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ima take it as a compliment/attempt to sway
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Post Post #9228 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:23 am

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like the world youre painting is that im mefia being extremely cunning and planning all my posts as to look confbiaising town (if i undestand you correctly) but i would make the omgus comment openly showing that im very aware of my posturizing and so on
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Post Post #9229 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:27 am

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i dont think the read on the omgus thing is bad i always got fosed for this kind of comments because its cheeky, the read on me 'acting like town but being mefia for it" looks forced, also if you havent found anything openly scummy about my play, maybe you should realize that the odds of you being correct on kyouko play versus myself are the same yet the alignements distributions arent even -> meaning that if you scumread my pred but doesnt scumread me, you should at least try to reconsider and/or try to sort me better, i havent see you try to engage with me other than throwing lowkey shade my lil leon, this isnt coherent with the town scenario where you dont have an agenda and actually scumread my pred
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Post Post #9230 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:30 am

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also regarding people scumreading vecna and nancy, aka sondam and nero i am farily certain both are town for numerous reason, nancy being one of the most obvious and transparent read on the table, vecna towntold as well and is a terrible push for today, i really want leon or at least get the slot sum pressure
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Post Post #9231 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:49 am

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In post 9192, CloudKicker wrote:Max is a terrible slot with
worse reads
, his behaviors since i replaced in are essenitally coasting, fosing town and being inconsitent in their thoughts process aka asking for justifications when they arent willing to give an opportunity for their reads to be town
my reads so far were

- beeboy town
- froggy town
- ABR null/unsure
- PV town

which of these reads are shit.
if you're talking about unflipped reads be very specific as to why it's a shit read.
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Post Post #9232 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:19 am

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You have a point about the dissonance between pretending to be confbias vs. your OMGUS comment, though once again you're self-aware about it.

My initial impression reading your case was that you were confbiasing yourself, but since you were making it so obvious that you were only focusing on a couple of my posts and seemingly ignoring the rest.
In post 9203, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 9135, Leonshade wrote:I don't agree with any of nancy's scumreads :(

I
don't have the time or energy to double-check Vecna's case,
I'l just put my trust in him. Of interest to me is that davesaz claims to have scumreads in this game but hasn't had a vote out all day. He also had LUV as an (unexplained) scumread alongside ABR in his D2 reads list but the scumread seems to have disappeared since.

VOTE: davesaz
The more i read leons the more obvious it gets that hes mefia. Scumexcuses, ill put my trust in him is also a buddy line wich leads to vecna being town and vecna also stated earlier that hes a sucker for being buddied and that leon is a blindspot, as i read it he has meta with leon where he couldnt read him correctly. Hes talking about unexplained reads when hes not explaining his
This post especially looks fake, you already quoted the post in and now you're quoting it again to list off a bunch of confbias reasons for why you're becoming more convinced about your scumread. It's like you were staring at my last 10 posts to list reasons to call me scum as opposed to trying to read me.

I haven't interacted with many people during the time since you replaced in, I've been largely disengaged for large chunks of D3. I have no reason to change my read on your slot just because you replaced in, Kyouko scummy + you null = slot still scummy.
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Post Post #9233 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:20 am

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In post 9232, Leonshade wrote: My initial impression reading your case was that you were confbiasing yourself, but since you were making it so obvious that you were only focusing on a couple of my posts and seemingly ignoring the rest, it made me think that you were trying to look like you're doing so on purpose.
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Post Post #9234 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:26 am

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In post 9188, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 9163, Leonshade wrote:Some scum want to stay off mislynch wagons for towncred. But I won't blame you for TRing someone who matches your thoughts.

What do you think of CK, Ali?
I think I'd rather lynch him than dave
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This whole post is textbook scum, talks about third party hypothetic scum behaviors, "wont blame you for tring someone who matches your thoughts" is an obnoxious buddy line,
Hes trying to derail the wagon on dave onto me even tho he outed 0 reads on eithers slots AFAIK
, hes asking for alisae to out their reads on my slots, while not outing theirs, as to fuel a possible wagon. This is imo mefia vs town interactions same with the buddy line
You make a claim like this even though it would be trivial to check my ISO to see that I've stated my reads on both Kyouko and dave. I've been pretty transparent about my reads in general, yet your case is just looking at my posts from the last day or two, not seeing me explain my reads in those posts and concluding that I'm not explaining my reads.
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Post Post #9235 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:30 am

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In post 9231, Maxous wrote:
In post 9192, CloudKicker wrote:Max is a terrible slot with
worse reads
, his behaviors since i replaced in are essenitally coasting, fosing town and being inconsitent in their thoughts process aka asking for justifications when they arent willing to give an opportunity for their reads to be town
my reads so far were

- beeboy town
- froggy town
- ABR null/unsure
- PV town

which of these reads are shit.
if you're talking about unflipped reads be very specific as to why it's a shit read.
ck mefia is a bad read, i didnt read anything prior my replace-in so everything you said since then was sub average
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Post Post #9236 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:32 am

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In post 9232, Leonshade wrote:This post especially looks fake, you already quoted the post in 9196 and now you're quoting it again to list off a bunch of confbias reasons for why you're becoming more convinced about your scumread. It's like you were staring at my last 10 posts to list reasons to call me scum as opposed to trying to read me
thats kinda true, i had you as a lean scum for a while and i eventually got disatisfied with the current wagons so i revisted your slot, i didnt like you first for tone so i isod you and nitpicked at stuff that pinged me
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Post Post #9237 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:33 am

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Like i said, i didnt read prior to my replace-in, saying that im scummy for not being conherent with the content you put before my replace-in is just noise
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Post Post #9238 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:33 am

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And what did you have me as lean scum for before?
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Post Post #9239 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:34 am

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also leon you fit exactly in the archetype of the coasting mefia going with the grain when its a perfect scumgame so far, not having a lot of attention rn for no real reasons yknow
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Post Post #9240 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:35 am

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In post 9238, Leonshade wrote:And what did you have me as lean scum for before?
tone + a comment about something about someone i remember alisae said he didnt like and i agreed, i dont remember the content of that post but i remember i didnt like it
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Post Post #9241 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:36 am

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vote Dave plox.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #9242 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:36 am

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In post 7991, Alisae wrote:I feel like Leon is treating Brian like he was treating me in Spyro.
We were both scum together and the whole game he was distancing himself from me but he was also keeping other oppertunities open.
Like I feel like Leon told Brian in their scum PT after Brian hammered ABR "Hey, you're going to get some heat on you and I'm probably going to have to bus you."
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Post Post #9243 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:37 am

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funny, i remembered it as if you said something i didnt like, not something alisae commented on, regardless that just made me revisit your slot and i still really hate your posting
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Post Post #9244 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:39 am

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In post 8012, CloudKicker wrote:so far i dont like yuris and leons tone
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Post Post #9245 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:42 am

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Cloud is such a clown
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #9246 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:50 am

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I've been coasting because I tried to push my top SR in Skies and nobody cared to join my wagon, or even comment on my case besides saying that Skies is town because of one post from Drixx. The top wagons of today could flip scum, but I'm largely apathetic about them and only joining the wagons because I want the day to be over.

Kyouko's jump on the beeboy wagon was really bad and he never jumped off it since, that's why I'm scumlean on your slot. Point against that is that he was largely inactive a couple days after he jumped on beeboy , so he wouldn't have had time to switch wagons anyway.

You could just be confbiased town, attributing a cunning scum plan to your case is a bit of a stretch. I'm way more confident in my townreads this game, my only scumreads are you and Skies.
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Post Post #9247 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:56 am

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For today ill randomly submit between the investigation wonder, no wonder or the Hagia Sofia.

We need some others that randomly submit between the Roleblocker (Never to be used untill endgame) and the investigation and no build

And the same for the night action blocker.

Preferably some obv-town people thatll be killed that can submit for these wonders that are rather useless to town but are great utility while denied to scum.
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Post Post #9248 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:57 am

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As for today, id kind of want to lynh either Davesaz or NoticeMeSenpai.

Still no response AT ALL to my Davesaz case just makes me a sad puppy.
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Post Post #9249 (ISO) » Tue Mar 07, 2017 4:04 am

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In post 9235, CloudKicker wrote:
In post 9231, Maxous wrote:
In post 9192, CloudKicker wrote:Max is a terrible slot with
worse reads
, his behaviors since i replaced in are essenitally coasting, fosing town and being inconsitent in their thoughts process aka asking for justifications when they arent willing to give an opportunity for their reads to be town
my reads so far were

- beeboy town
- froggy town
- ABR null/unsure
- PV town

which of these reads are shit.
if you're talking about unflipped reads be very specific as to why it's a shit read.
ck mefia is a bad read, i didnt read anything prior my replace-in so everything you said since then was sub average
you are so full of it
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