Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

But I'm not wrong on Nero

the "Nero or bust" is real.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hey I remember that

NERO OR BUST
NERO OR NL

[MathBlade]

Who is your "logically Town" nancy?

@nancy

@nero

[RadiantCowbells]

nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
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nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
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nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust
nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust nero or bust

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay I'm back because this game sucks, no literally. Blowout game on TV right now.

I'm going to do my own thing now and I don't care. It is the only way for me to tune everyone out so consider me not here.

VOTE: Ceasar

[Nero Cain]

Who is your "logically Town" nancy?

@nancy

@nero

???
Me Creature and Dave I guess.

Nero Cain
Creature
davesaz

I'm confirmed to myself and Creature is confirmed town and Dave doesn't Make sense as scum. I guess I could throw in Senpai and maybe Alisae, but like I have no clue why they are lurking and coasting. So its like pro-scum play but scum shot at him? Its just really odd to me.

[nancy]

@rc

,
i looked over nancy's ISO in 1875 to get a general sense of her tone,
but im not really sure im gonna get much from it without comparing it to her play early on in the game and thats just not happening tonight.

i will say that i can buy that townNancy wifoms her reads based on you/her faking scumreads on each other, just
would she not be able to do those kinds of things as scum too?
i think i remember her saying that she has no scumgames onsite, so im just kind of weirded out that youre so absolutely confident this is her towngame when her scumgame could be just as good.
she really does strike me as the kind of player that would be able to dig down and fake things that normal scum cant, if that makes sense.

how can you be so confident that this isnt scumNancy without having played with scumNancy before?

i know youre just going to say tone to me
and it probably means i should sit down and read more
zzzzz

See posts like this make me want to sort you as Town. But you're literally fighting with hard TRs and locktowns here in my PoE, and I don't know what to do about that.

[nancy]

Who is your "logically Town" nancy?

@nancy

@nero

What do you mean by logically?

[NoticeMeSenpai]

ok so I'm behind like 70ish pages, I wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to continue from where I was up to. I've seen bits and pieces but not enough to know what happened to blow the thread up.

@Leon thinking about the point you made that I've had a diff perspective, if you're honest about you not noticing that could actually be more town indicative than anything because scum were doc hunting as well I think.
@Nero Ali's contributions to the hood are down enough that mastina stepped in as cheerleading squad to try and help motivate

If there were more questions for me let me know. Can someone I trust please update me on the pages I missed out on? Math? RC?

[MathBlade]

Who is your "logically Town" nancy?

@nancy

@nero

???
Me Creature and Dave I guess.

Nero Cain
Creature
davesaz

I'm confirmed to myself and Creature is confirmed town and Dave doesn't Make sense as scum. I guess I could throw in Senpai and maybe Alisae, but like I have no clue why they are lurking and coasting. So its like pro-scum play but scum shot at him? Its just really odd to me.

Do you you think Senpai would fake crumb as scum?

Do you think lurking as a doc makes sense?

[RadiantCowbells]

ok so I'm behind like 70ish pages, I wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to continue from where I was up to. I've seen bits and pieces but not enough to know what happened to blow the thread up.

@Leon thinking about the point you made that I've had a diff perspective, if you're honest about you not noticing that could actually be more town indicative than anything because scum were doc hunting as well I think.
@Nero Ali's contributions to the hood are down enough that mastina stepped in as cheerleading squad to try and help motivate

If there were more questions for me let me know. Can someone I trust please update me on the pages I missed out on? Math? RC?

Vecna had a really cool google docs for the distribution of wonders and the rest of it is me trying to get more votes on Nero.

FTR I am at the point where I am willing to be lynched if Nero is town. There's no way that he flips scum. Please vote with me.

[MathBlade]

ok so I'm behind like 70ish pages, I wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to continue from where I was up to. I've seen bits and pieces but not enough to know what happened to blow the thread up.

@Leon thinking about the point you made that I've had a diff perspective, if you're honest about you not noticing that could actually be more town indicative than anything because scum were doc hunting as well I think.
@Nero Ali's contributions to the hood are down enough that mastina stepped in as cheerleading squad to try and help motivate

If there were more questions for me let me know. Can someone I trust please update me on the pages I missed out on? Math? RC?

Mass claim outright occurred I outed my suspicion of your role.

People are dividing on Nero and Nancy.

Everyone needs to claim failed and passed wonder.

Phone posting at D&D.

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@Nero/nancy
"Logically Town" is like
Scum don't give two townfirms

Scum don't fake claim doc and crumb it multiple times...

Etc.

[Nero Cain]

Do you you think Senpai would fake crumb as scum?

Do you think lurking as a doc makes sense?

This is my first game with Senpai. I think that theoretically scum would crumb. Whether or not its something Senpai would do then idk.

I don't think Senpai is lurking on purpose but lurking as a pr is a valid, albeit annoying, strategy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Notice can you confirm you role. I have questions while you have time.

[Nero Cain]

FTR I am at the point where I am willing to be lynched if Nero is town.

saying this when the game could be over after my lynch doesn't mean anything. Are you willing to get yourself lynched today? If you flip town then I'll happily lynch myself tomorrow and Creature can RB me tonight so I can't use vig.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

ok so I'm behind like 70ish pages, I wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to continue from where I was up to. I've seen bits and pieces but not enough to know what happened to blow the thread up.

@Leon thinking about the point you made that I've had a diff perspective, if you're honest about you not noticing that could actually be more town indicative than anything because scum were doc hunting as well I think.
@Nero Ali's contributions to the hood are down enough that mastina stepped in as cheerleading squad to try and help motivate

If there were more questions for me let me know. Can someone I trust please update me on the pages I missed out on? Math? RC?

Vecna had a really cool google docs for the distribution of wonders and the rest of it is me trying to get more votes on Nero.

FTR I am at the point where I am willing to be lynched if Nero is town. There's no way that he flips scum. Please vote with me.

I'll think about it, I'd like to catch up somewhat first and get a VC to know what's going on. I'd almost expect Nero to be lurking more here as scum? What's your experience with scum and town Nero?

[RadiantCowbells]

I was literally just in TimeShift with scum Nero and it's the same deflection crap and the same unexplained scumread on me. Nero doesn't lurk as scum.

[Nero Cain]

There's no way that he flips scum.

this is correct btw

[RadiantCowbells]

There's no way that he flips town.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

ok so I'm behind like 70ish pages, I wasn't feeling well enough yesterday to continue from where I was up to. I've seen bits and pieces but not enough to know what happened to blow the thread up.

@Leon thinking about the point you made that I've had a diff perspective, if you're honest about you not noticing that could actually be more town indicative than anything because scum were doc hunting as well I think.
@Nero Ali's contributions to the hood are down enough that mastina stepped in as cheerleading squad to try and help motivate

If there were more questions for me let me know. Can someone I trust please update me on the pages I missed out on? Math? RC?

Mass claim outright occurred I outed my suspicion of your role.

Ok, that's fine if it was happening anyway. I kind of didn't want it to happen in case the reason dave got no result was a roleblock but didn't know how to object to it :/ If it's mylo today then it doesn't matter though I guess.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

So you're claiming Doc?

[Nero Cain]

There's no way that he flips town.

No you, already said there's no way I flip scum. NO TAKEBACKS!

[nancy]

Why would that team give two conf towns in Creature and Maxous nancy?

I don't know, and that's why I had davesaz as locktown before. But Creature is so far from his scum meta here that I don't know who else to put in there. I'm working off my locktowns and I'm finding it really hard to see scum!Vecna.

If you are putting a logically Town read as scum then would you think you are wrong somewhere?

Ignore for a second interactions.

Write out your logically Town.

Put down who is left.

RC cannot be scum because scum!RC simply does not ever whiteknight me like this when lynching me very likely wins the game for scum. Scum!RC also doesn't replace in and tunnel one slot and only one slot. So RC is Town. Aslan is Town because I believe that I can read their game. Caesar is Town depending on whether LUV is Town because he has been pushing LUV and if LUV is scum then Caesar cannot be scum given Caesar's anti-bus stance. You are Town because of what happened with the hydra and Titus's replace out. PV is Town because it's the simplest answer in a game where scum haven't been bussing at all it doesn't make sense that they would kill one of their own, even though if PV hadn't been killed I would be SRing the slot by it's content.

Notice is Town because every single time I have tested them by scumreading them, they have OMGUS SRed me and I haven't felt that their emotion in that was faked. They pulled off a Leonshade lynch simply due to OMGUS. I don't believe that scum!Notice makes that play. Leonshade is Town because of the way that there has been no pressure on Leonshade at all today. Scum have been picking mislynches and they picked Leonshade yesterday. Same as they picked ABR/Vecna. Same as they've picked me today.

As far as Vecna goes, there's so much stuff he's done this game that is really really bizarre but there are just things about his play that I really struggle to reconcile coming from scum. The way he was pushing so hard for a Leonshade lynch near EoD yesterday, for instance. For Vecna to be scum he has to basically believe that he is completely invincible this game and has to be a complete show-off and braggart. He also just seems so confused a lot of the time, even if there are glimmers occasionally to the contrary.

I don't have a reason to TR Creature except the meta I've been given and the parity result. If davesaz is Town, then unless Vecna is scum then Creature is Town. But I'm not convinced that davesaz is Town. He hasn't been around. He hasn't done anything to help Town. I have no reason at all to TR him except just believing his claim.

Logically speaking if davesaz is scum then Creature would also be scum. If that were the case, I would pull Gorkington out of the scumteam and put Creature in there. CK I know wouldn't be voting me right now, he knows what my scumgame looks like better than nearly anyone here and he also knows my Town game pretty well. I have no way to reconcile that with town!CK. LUV, as I've stated, has behaved towards me as if he knows I'm Town despite claiming to scumread me. He's also voted yae to resolutions that would clearly favor scum.

[MathBlade]

What was the steak bit BaeReed?

[MathBlade]

@nancy so Dave is logically Town? Along with Creature?