Open 676 - Jungle Republic (Game Over)

[Chronicle]

Talk about Creature some more. I see that you just signed for the site a week ago so I'm going to assume for the sake of this exercise that you're actually new and not an alt. I tend to notice that players unfamiliar with his play style tend to always scum read him because on the surface, it feels like he's not doing much

I'm new to forum mafia, but I've played this with friends IRL before.

Creature's early game struck me as town before he fell off the radar. My problem is that his posting is sparse and generally low in content, that from reading the game I can't find anything particularly towny from him. If I were to slot him, it'd be more of scum coasting through the game. I don't recall him ever making strong pushes or distinct stances, and more so because he's never around, or he has never made an effort to, really explain and flesh out his reads, he leaves a lot of grey area for him to posture and shift around.

All that is just off my memory of this game during my catch up read, as well as a quick scroll through his ISO.

[Chronicle]

but what direction are they pushing the gamestate

i think its a good way but im just trying to challenge you on your thought process here

Are you asking specific to Moz?

Moz's constant posting of readlist keeps it clear to the rest of town what her stances are, and makes her very transparent. It lets others keep track of her reads as they change, and the fact that she's always updating reads to me as actively looking for scum and sharing her thoughts.

But aside from that, I cannot recall any strong pushes or stances off the top of my head. Or anything else notable really.

[Chronicle]

Leaning toward Sesq. Eddie might've been right after all.

Can you briefly summarize your Sesq read for me?

[Sesq]

i dont think doing nothing/very little is enough for a scumread

its how you do nothing and how you respond to those accusations and stuff

[Chronicle]

PoE/Gut.

Interactions make me think the opposite but something fishy about how Hamm pushed Creature all day long d1 and then dropped that read off the face of the earth in favor of pressing into BBT only to vote on Creature when she was going down, despite posing a much more solid case on BBT, makes me think maybe it was clever distancing to create a lot of WIFOM or give Creature some room to breathe.

Hamm creates distance d1 from Creature, drops that read and doesn't really press it most of d2 and then picks it back up again when creature pokes at her VT claim.

I mean I could be wrong. It's just a thought. I don't really see other good associatives. People outside of Hamm's lynch pool and Panther make more sense if you go with the traditional thinking that Hamm wouldn't push on her partner at all.

Agree on Hamm's voting on Creature, but the VT claim interaction just seems weird. It doesn't really read like a last ditch effort to bus, but then again it reads as a weird gambit in general.

@anyone familiar with Creature meta: Does Creature normally bring up random shit like this?

[Chronicle]

Here, hi.

Lynch darklyn then it's all lynches from there

I still don't see it honestly.

I'm not even entirely sure how that table helps us

[Lil Uzi Vert]

but what direction are they pushing the gamestate

i think its a good way but im just trying to challenge you on your thought process here

Are you asking specific to Moz?

Moz's constant posting of readlist keeps it clear to the rest of town what her stances are, and makes her very transparent. It lets others keep track of her reads as they change, and the fact that she's always updating reads to me as actively looking for scum and sharing her thoughts.

But aside from that, I cannot recall any strong pushes or stances off the top of my head. Or anything else notable really.

While I agree with this to an extent, he's not being as transparent as one can be when it comes to giving out reads. A player who likes to post reads list frequently and often without explanations a majority of the time, is one who I feel you should constantly be aware of, due to how easy it's to do that sort of thing as scum.

Not sure if you're fully caught up yet but Moz's push against Hamm was pretty memorable. It's part of why I highly doubt he's the last wolf.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Leaning toward Sesq. Eddie might've been right after all.

Can you briefly summarize your Sesq read for me?

Well I did sort of a soft reset on my reads due to how long it took Day 3 to get started. I didn't like her hop on the Dark wagon. Not only did it read fake to me, but very opportunistic.

[BTD6_maker]

Day 3 VC 4

Darklyn: PantherPunt, Sesq -

L-3

Chronicle: Hawk - L-4

Not Voting: mozamis, Creature, Chronicle, Darklyn, Lil Uzi Vert

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-04-13 16:30:00)

With 8 players, it's 5 to lynch!

[BTD6_maker]

Dunnstral will be replacing Darklyn. This replacement will become official as soon as they confirm their Role PM.

[Sesq]

all the games im in have so much replacing smh

[PantherPunt]

DUNN

HOWS THAT WEREWOLF PN TASTE

YOURE GOING DOWN

[PantherPunt]

Interest regained

[Hawk]

Panther why are you so certain Lucca bussed Hamm?

[Hawk]

Lucca/Darklyn**

[Dunnstral]

Hi, I'll read this game tomorrow

Just know that PantherPunt is mafia from a quick skim

[Creature]

Yep, Panther is likely mafia.

[Chronicle]

i dont think doing nothing/very little is enough for a scumread

its how you do nothing and how you respond to those accusations and stuff

So...you have a townCreature case?

[Chronicle]

While I agree with this to an extent, he's not being as transparent as one can be when it comes to giving out reads. A player who likes to post reads list frequently and often without explanations a majority of the time, is one who I feel you should constantly be aware of, due to how easy it's to do that sort of thing as scum.

Does this apply to moz? I don't recall her slot being very ambiguous with stances.

I'm going through a data crunch so I'm avoiding running between pages and ISOs, so please bear with me for the next couple of days.

[Chronicle]

DUNN

HOWS THAT WEREWOLF PN TASTE

YOURE GOING DOWN

I still don't understand how the table means that the slot is wolf. Can you explain in better?

[Sesq]

i dont think doing nothing/very little is enough for a scumread

its how you do nothing and how you respond to those accusations and stuff

So...you have a townCreature case?

no hes null

[mozamis]

@ Chronicle - so what are your reads? I appreciate its hard to be certain, but give me your "gun to your head" reads as much as pos.

[mozamis]

wondering if panther is lone wolf. the way both chronicle and creature (both pos. scum) agreed that panther could be scum, and no one seems to be supporting panther either.

[mozamis]

thinking it through, i guess scum team then of: chronicle/bbt, creature and uzi?

town moz, hawk, lucca/dunatral, sesq wolf: Panther Mafia: Chornicle/bbt, creature, uzi

[Hawk]

Flip Uzi with Sesq and you're where I'm at Moz.

idk if Panthers the lone wolf but it kinda makes sense.