nancy's Mini Normal review

[nancy]

If you all are happy with it and don't think anything else needs ironing out I'm happy with it.

Oh, mechanics question: Does the Neighborize shot resolve at end of Phase or as soon as the PM is sent?

[mhsmith0]

Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon

does the BP bodyguard survive a successful bodyguard usage? Or just getting shot at himself?

Weak neighborizer obviously a very powerful role, jailkeeper fairly strong too, and the bp/bg presuming he can survive a save is very useful too. Mafia doctor is a bit of a trap here honestly, not sure how it'd get setup spec'd, but once the BP/BG flips it'd be obvious that the claim is fake to anyone knowing cursory setup spec. I MIGHT just suggest something like a gunsmith there to get a bit of mod wifom about giving scum two investigative roles. Maybe like an odd night gunsmith since the point is to be claimable not to actually be useful.

[nancy]

Survives a successful bodyguard usage.

And sure.


Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Town Odd-Night Gunsmith
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Doctor
Mafia Goon

[mhsmith0]

lol no i meant turn mafia doctor into a oddnight gunsmith. town def. doesn't need another solid pr here.

[mhsmith0]

Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Odd Night GS
Mafia Goon

town has clear power but scum have pretty interesting and legitimate fake claims to work with (GS is a pure fake claim with no actual use beyond existing as something claimable)

[nancy]

Oh I misunderstood.

Town 2-shot Weak Neighborizer
Town Daytalk Enabler Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper Neighbor
Town 1-shot Bulletproof Bodyguard
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie
Vanilla Townie

Mafia Neapolitan
Mafia Odd-Night Gunsmith
Mafia Goon

[nancy]

I like that scumteam a lot actually. That's super elegant.

[nancy]

Bussing is still disincentivized due to one slot not being able to do two actions in one night.

[nancy]

And I can see scumteam thinking there might be a Town Vig here.

[nancy]

Misinforming the scum team is always a good thing.

[mhsmith0]

Objectively town would likely setup spec lynch ONE scum and clear the other given weak neighbor but I think that's fine overall.

[nancy]

Spoiler: MAFIA ODD-NIGHT GUNSMITH

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX!

You are a

MAFIA ODD-NIGHT GUNSMITH

. Your partners in crime are ______ and ______, and you'll find them over in the scum PT (<link), where you may talk during pre-game and Night phases.

Abilities:

On odd-numbered Nights, you can target a player to learn whether or not they possess any guns.

You win when Mafia hold majority voting power or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

[nancy]

Actually I think scum are more likely to think this is a real/useful role. Would this be okay?

Spoiler: MAFIA NON-CONSECUTIVE NIGHT GUNSMITH

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX!

You are a

MAFIA NON-CONSECUTIVE NIGHT GUNSMITH

. Your partners in crime are ______ and ______, and you'll find them over in the scum PT (<link), where you may talk during pre-game and Night phases.

Abilities:

On any Night where you have not used this ability the previous Night, you can target a player to learn whether or not they possess any guns.

You win when Mafia hold majority voting power or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

[nancy]

Just realized I have to put factional kill into scum role PMs.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm fine with that setup balance wise. VERY swingy but it's always going to be with that weak neighbourizer.

[nancy]

Spoiler: TOWN 2-SHOT WEAK NEIGHBORIZER

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

TOWN 2-SHOT WEAK NEIGHBORIZER

.

Abilities:

Twice per game, you can target a player during the Night to form a neighborhood with them. You will die if your target is aligned with the Mafia.

You win when all threats to Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player remains to tell the tale.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: TOWN DAYTALK ENABLER NEIGHBOR

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

TOWN DAYTALK ENABLER NEIGHBOR

.

Abilities:

You are neighors with _______. You'll find them over in the neighborhood PT (<link).
As long as you are alive, any PT containing one or more Town-aligned players will not be locked during the Day.

You win when all threats to Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player remains to tell the tale.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: TOWN JAILKEEPER NEIGHBOR

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

TOWN JAILKEEPER NEIGHBOR

.

Abilities:

You are neighors with _______. You'll find them over in the neighborhood PT (<link).
Each Night, you can target a player to prevent them from taking any action or being killed that Night.

You win when all threats to Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player remains to tell the tale.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: TOWN 1-SHOT BULLETPROOF BODYGUARD

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

TOWN 1-SHOT BULLETPROOF BODYGUARD

.

Abilities:

Each Night, you can target a player to redirect any killing action against them to you that Night.

Passive:

You will survive the first killing action that hits you.

You win when all threats to Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player remains to tell the tale.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: VANILLA TOWNIE

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

VANILLA TOWNIE

.

You win when all threats to Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player remains to tell the tale.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: MAFIA NEAPOLITAN

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX! You are a

MAFIA NEAPOLITAN

. Your partners in crime are ______ and ______, and you'll find them over in the scum PT (<link), where you may talk during pre-game and Night phases.

Abilities:

Each Night, you can target a player to learn whether or not they are a Vanilla Townie.
Each Night, you can perform the Mafia factional kill.

You win when Mafia hold majority voting power or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: MAFIA NON-CONSECUTIVE NIGHT GUNSMITH

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX!

You are a

MAFIA NON-CONSECUTIVE NIGHT GUNSMITH

. Your partners in crime are ______ and ______, and you'll find them over in the scum PT (<link), where you may talk during pre-game and Night phases.

Abilities:

On any Night where you have not used this ability the previous Night, you can target a player to learn whether or not they possess any guns.
Each Night, you can perform the Mafia factional kill.

You win when Mafia hold majority voting power or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

Spoiler: MAFIA GOON

Hello <player> and welcome to Mini 1XXX!

You are a

MAFIA GOON

. Your partners in crime are ______ and ______, and you'll find them over in the scum PT (<link), where you may talk during pre-game and Night phases.

Abilities:

Each Night, you can perform the Mafia factional kill.

You win when Mafia hold majority voting power or nothing can prevent the same.

Game thread (<link). Please confirm via PM with role name and alignment before posting in thread.

Have fun!

[nancy]

Well let's just hope the Neighborizer doesn't kill itself N1 :////

[RadiantCowbells]

It's a sketchy setup in a lot of ways but I also don't see how to do it better sorta

town is going to murder each other on setup spec

[nancy]

OK I need the question about when the Neighborizer shot is resolved answered though please

pedit hrm you think so?

[nancy]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I don't want setup spec

[RadiantCowbells]

just tell the players no setup speccing if they setup spec and you should be good to go

[nancy]

Haha how am I supposed to do that

[RadiantCowbells]

WELL WHEN THEY START SETUP SPECCING U SAY NO SETUP SPEC AND SLAP THEM WITH UR MOD POWERS

[nancy]

But that's mod interference lol.

OK listen. What if I just made the Weak Neighborizer a Mason Recruit. It's the same role without the swing right?

[RadiantCowbells]

I was joking.

Uhh Mason Recruit isn't actually a thing. Don't worry it's fine I think?