PenguinPower's Mini Normal Review

[PenguinPower]

Yes. It would inherit the established neighborhood and ability to add to it, just as it would inherit the cops previous investigations and ability to perform future investigations.

[mhsmith0]

Would the UB get a dayvig shot if he inherits the dayvig role and said role had already shot (obviously this is unlikely given novice 1-shot but not 100% impossible)?

Overall I'm cool with setup; the key roles are cop/ub, with neighborizer potentially very swingy depending on who he neighborizes and when (i.e. does he hit the cop or scum, game may swing substantially on that issue).

[PenguinPower]

No. If the role has used its shot, it has used its shot.

[Cheery Dog]

I don't think I like the backup inheriting the previous cops investigations.
That part doesn't seem thaat normal to me.
I asked about neighbouriser because it's a more uncommon role

or at least i don't think I'd do that if it was deputy.

I'm not actually sure whether it's just me not properly understanding how backups actually work though.

[PenguinPower]

Last normal I was in as backup (deputy), I inherited the investigations. Happy to change if that's the consensus, but that's not what I have experienced.

[RadiantCowbells]

I believe that was an incorrect usage of the role but I'd have to connect with my fellow NORMAL LORDS

[Cheery Dog]

I'm not sure if I've actually reviewed backups in any of my previous ones.
but yeah, I don't think I'dbe giving them previous results.
it's a 1/4 shot that is the pr that dies first.

chances are one of the PRs dies in the first two nights (guessimating, if they don't, town probably wins)
but even with the neightbourhood, them coming into the same one that possibly already exists confirms him as town.
so probably in all forms, it's the same as if it were a different version of the role.

well except X-Shot, because if it's been used it's X-1 shot once it's passed over, in this case a named townie.

I'm going to try thinking about whether it fits balance a bit more now.

[PenguinPower]

Alright, so the consensus seems to be no inherited results and no inherited neighborhood. I'm good with that.

[PenguinPower]

So...

[RadiantCowbells]

Later today I'll deal with this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah in hindsight I'd actually change the 1-shot Bulletproof to like a 1-shot Role Cop because I think it would feel better for scum

but at the same time I do think the setup is balanced as is and would be willing to pass it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe role cop would be too strong. 1-Shot Neapolitan would be better. But yeah bulletproof is fine-ish

[RadiantCowbells]

Neapolitan sorta PoEs itself out though. Even night vanilla cop would be an interesting idea. but again bulletproof is still fine

[Cheery Dog]

I don't think the town is actually strong enough to need to give better powers to the scum.

assuming 5-3 MYLO at day 3, the cop has one clear at that stage, there's enough movement there, so unless all power roles for town are still alive then, and the cop has somehow managed to clear the remaining townie.
if he escapes to 4-3 LYLO because they didn't lynch, with two clears, well that's all you can really hope for as a full cop.

the backup would be even worse with clears there, as the cop probably doesn't get lynched day 1 except under terrible play.

the neighbouriser could techinally be good, but that's all about how they actually cope with it, even with that daytalk.
but that's just basically continued day play anyway, but in a closed loop.

I'm willing to pass as it is

[mhsmith0]

Yeah I'm cool w just making it a 1-shot BP for scum. It's a little bit extra for scum that hints at the setup, while at the same time being pretty unlikely to make a big game impact.

I forget: is scum topic night only or day too?

The rest seems ok to me. In general I prefer rules to be non-spoiled but that's a taste thing not a requirement. Some minor notes:

Should link to site rules instead of just noting they apply

That's actually the only thing I'd note

[PenguinPower]

Night only.

[mhsmith0]

ok im fine w this.

[RadiantCowbells]

Pass

[Nexus]

Cheery!?

[Cheery Dog]

I'm willing to pass as it is

[PenguinPower]

Yay