Newbie 1806 - The Ffery Garden: GAME OVER!

UnaBombaH · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:45 am

Ok, done reading.

Starting off with how happy I am with RC being conf.town. I used to lurk-read games on this forum before I joined and started (recently)playing, and he has become one of my favorites (and easy to spot with that avatar).
I also find him as a very hard player to read, so it's a relief to be able to just follow his lead.

And now for the real kicker (atleast for me).

RC made the same reads/connections I did considering WhyMafia/Perse.

When I started reading I made short notes, and tried to form scum-couples.
After L1 and NK1 most of my PR/scum reads deleted, and at least halved most all of the couples. For example Fykus/WhyMafia.

The only pair that survived as whole to this day was WhyMafia/Perse.

And in his post #446 RC noticed their possible synergy too.
The only thing that actually made me question that theory, was how obviously WhyMafia tried to pin Perse as obv.town.

Also, this doesn't mean I don't have other scumreads too, but I can't see any obvious couples outside of this one.

Wheme and Miles just confuse me for now, so I would love to hear others thoughts now that I'm here.

UnaBombaH · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:56 am

Also something I want to point out, that may or may not come into play at some point: I live in Finland, so my timezone is +2GMT (+3 now because of DST).
It seems that the majority(?) of players hail from NA, so we have something like 8-10 hours time difference on average?
Remember this especially when we are closing in on deadlines.

fferyllt · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:19 am

Vote Count 2.5

Night Blooming Jasmine flowers are tiny and not staggeringly pale, but the fragrance of this plant permeates the air up to 20 feet.

WhemeStar

(2): WhyMafia, PersephoneSidekick

WhyMafia

(1): WhaleBarnicle

WhaleBarnicle

(1): Miles Edgeworth

Not Voting

(3): UnaBombaH, RadiantCowbells, WhemeStar

Deadline: July 23 Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2017-07-22 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- WhaleBarnicle has been prodded.
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fferyllt · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:28 am

WhaleBarnicle has been prodded.

WhaleBarnicle · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:17 am

Whale whale whale that prod snuck up on me. I'm keeping my vote right where it is for now though. I'm interested in this Peri scum idea though. I don't see it off of my first gut check but I may have conf. biased out of it so I'm gonna think it over.

Also welcome to Cankles's replacement, hopefully you can give us some real content!

WhaleBarnicle · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:18 am

In fact RC why aren't you voting Why Mafia anymore?

WhyMafia · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:49 am

You guys are letting scum waste your time on pre-flip associations because I'm town. This discussion is absolutely useless if you all are speculating her alignment based on me

WhemeStar · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:16 pm

VOTE: Whymafia

WhaleBarnicle · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:43 pm

I'd ask for a reason but 506 was just so terrible that vote doesn't even need justification

Miles Edgeworth · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:45 pm

In post 508, WhaleBarnicle wrote:I'd ask for a reason but 506 was just so terrible that vote doesn't even need justification

Explain.

WhemeStar · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:51 pm

In post 508, WhaleBarnicle wrote:I'd ask for a reason but 506 was just so terrible that vote doesn't even need justification

This is why you are town

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:42 pm

VOTE: Whymafia

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:42 pm

Probably not vchanging that vote at this point so let's see a

Miles Edgeworth · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 6:46 pm

Y'all better not touch that hammer until I get my answers from WhaleBarnicle.

WhemeStar · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:00 pm

Just hammer him

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:01 pm

UNVOTE:

you can have some time

Miles Edgeworth · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:06 pm

Thanks RC.

Whale, we're waiting. I asked you some questions and even made a case against you for your perusal. Mind answering those questions?

UnaBombaH · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:32 pm

In post 514, WhemeStar wrote:Just hammer him

These kind of actions always worry me.

This is either scum playing VERY carelessly and see-through, or a townie making questionably aggressive remarks.

In any scenario, WHY would you do this WhemeStar?
Town only takes advantages from longer days, so wanting the day to end quickly is very scummy, even in cases where scum would be 100% locked.

We should take the time we have and try to build cases for WhyMafias scumpartner (in the event he flips scum).

UnaBombaH · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:58 pm

I had a revelation, so I re-read most of the game.

I really feel like we have a good situation here as Town.
Going for the worst case scenario, should we lynch WhyMafia and he flips town, we still have one conf.town to lead us, and by PoE I feel we could pretty much clear Perse. (at least to me he is susp. mainly by proxy)

To me, Wheme and Whale seem like the obvious duo in the scenario where WM/Perse isn't scum, but RC seems to have a VERY strong townread on Whale.
Meaning Miles/Wheme then?

I'm not sure how RC reads this slot with Cankles playing very quiet almost all game, and then me liking to post a lot and try to deduce shit, but from a VT perspective this situation in game doesn't seem bad.

I'll sheep RC today, but my suspect list differs on Whale/Miles, for now, at least.

WhyMafia wrote:You guys are letting scum waste your time on pre-flip associations because I'm town. This discussion is absolutely useless if you all are speculating her alignment based on me

Is this scum trying to bait newbies into quicklynching himself?
But then why didn't he just selfvote to end the day quickly?

A question I have for RC/Miles/Whale: What goals could be driven through this post by WhyMafia?

WhyMafia · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:27 am

BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE HALF THE GAME IS CONF BIASING ME
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS

WhyMafia · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:29 am

Like I can't wait till I flip town lol
Nobody hammer please
At least let me get my thoughts out

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:30 am

In post 506, WhyMafia wrote:You guys are letting scum waste your time on pre-flip associations because I'm town. This discussion is absolutely useless if you all are speculating her alignment based on me

In post 508, WhaleBarnicle wrote:I'd ask for a reason but 506 was just so terrible that vote doesn't even need justification

Why is this so terrible it doesn't need justification exactly?

WhyMafia · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:41 am

Crap my draft with my case didn't save

UnaBombaH · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:50 am

In post 519, WhyMafia wrote:BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE HALF THE GAME IS CONF BIASING ME
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS

The only reason I haven't voted for you yet, is because I don't want a hammer for anyone yet.

I actually had no conf.bias from reading this game in one go, and building MY OWN suspicions towards you.
My "conf.bias" stepped in only when RC noted how Perse acted around your wagon, and I had already arrived at the theory myself that IF you are scum, Perse would be your buddy.

Please give me something to work with, and I might change my mind on your alignment.
RC just seems to be set on you already..

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:01 am

There's no chance for us
it's all decided for us
This world is only one sweet moment set aside for us