Newbie 1816 (Game Over)

[guyy]

this is awful lol

[guyy]

why did this happen

[Mulch]

It's not my fault town can't see obvious scum. The best way for me to convince you is to die.

[guyy]

alright but you already have reason to believe 2 [me, ginngie] of the 8 people that aren't you aren't going to go along with that, even if you flip town

if ginngie is scum, as you say, she'd likely target those likely to go along with it, so you're left with 4 out of 7 people [ie not me, ginngie, her partner] and you're relying on every single one of them to go along with your plan

again

why are you so sure that's going to happen

[Mulch]

I know that Ginnigie is scum because they were afraid to talk about what would happen if I flip town and in my vast experience playing forum mafia that has never, ever been a reaction from a town.

[guyy]

that doesn't answer my question

it just elicits a new one- why don't you push for her now instead

[guyy]

you scum reading ginngie is not the issue here

it could be. but you chose to make it weirdly about lynching you instead

[guyy]

sorry i'm frustrated because this is very anti helpful

[Mulch]

Your the one lynching a town right now, not me.

[Ginngie]

[guyy]

actually as far as i can tell you and i are voting for you in equal amounts

so we're either both lynching town or both lynching scum. you haven't even tried to convince me it's not the latter

[Mulch]

UNVOTE: Mulch

Now your the one lynching a town, and I'm the one identifying the scum. So who's playing better now?

[guyy]

thank you

now hopefully we can both shut up for a minute so other people can contribute something

[WhemeStar]

Hey mulch Gin is town for now

[A Simple Plan]

What.

Alright, so, Llama's post about unvote your self vote is spot on. That's stupid as hell regardless of alignment. But in this particular instance it's scum flailing like mad, hence the trap card image.

Gin's brand of sarcastic play reminds me of town game from quite a few players. Too much posting for a Not_Mafia comparison, but I see similarities in demeanor. Gives me a gut reaction of town.

People criticize my passive lurking because I've been busy as hell (first night off in a week!) but not active lurking (aka contentless posting) from Whemestar. Not lynch-worthy, but note to self: over half his posts are less than ten words. You don't get anywhere off of "Maybe he is." "Maybe he isn't."

@Mulch: even if we lynch you, there's no chance we're using your flip as the basis of a push on Gin. The more likely result is that the blame falls to me for starting the push and disappearing. But you again switched votes based on a weak reason ("too scared to talk about his scum read flipping town") and even self-voted to push your agenda. It wasn't that you started the wagon on Llama, it's that you were late to the party (my predecessor started that wagon/push. My vote would've preceded yours had I not unvoted upon joining the game.), and even so were trying to reignite a wagon after others had expressed interest in voting there/concern about the slot. You've thrown Appeal to Emotion (AtE) at us ("go ahead and lynch me, but when I flip town you have to listen or we lose.") and WIFOM (wine in front of me; look it up) in the sense that it's almost objectively against wincon as either alignment to self-vote, and it makes no sense from either alignment, so why is it happening? I like our chances lynching you. Also 286 literally trying to use the way something is worded to get yourself out of trouble. Like, what?

Allow me to rephrase Ginngie's 284 to help you get the point in case you don't already.

Mulch, what I don't on a moral level as town, is why you're trying to teach newbies that self-voting is okay

Point: don't do it regardless of alignment. Especially in a newbie game.

I like guy's points in 290|292

[WhemeStar]

if we lynch you then ginngie and you're both town and we lose will you accept full responsibility for the loss

I'm not sure yet about guyy but this post pinged me

[Mulch]

@plan

What will your reaction be when I flip town?

[Mulch]

Also, why does me being scummy have anything to do with giningie? They aren't scum for voting me, they are scum for having a shit reaction.

I would imagine the scumteam is 2/3 of guyy, Llama, and giningie right now

[guyy]

if we lynch you then ginngie and you're both town and we lose will you accept full responsibility for the loss

I'm not sure yet about guyy but this post pinged me

i was being an asshole because of how ridiculous 268 was

[guyy]

also the only other game i played in whemes posting style was the exact same and he was cop so i'm town reading him so far

[guyy]

@plan

What will your reaction be when I flip town?

careful with you're reaction to this one, he might go apeshit and lynch himself

[guyy]

also side note lmao mulch are you spelling her name different every time on purpose because it keeps making me laugh

[Nexus]

Raya36 replaces clockworkgirl

[Nexus]

Votecount 1.12:

Mulch (3)

- A Simple Plan, Ginngie, guyy

JaeReed (2)

- Llamafluff, SIV36

SIV36 (1)

- Raya36

Not voting (3)

- Whemestar, JaeReed, Mulch

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. The deadline is at 7pm BST on Wednesday 30th August 2017 ((expired on 2017-08-30 19:00:00)). Please note the new deadline.

[WhemeStar]

VOTE: Rayaaaaa

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