Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[northsidegal]

VC 1.03

votes

Internecine

(1): UC Voyager

UC Voyager

(2): Sephiroth, Flubbernugget

Sephiroth

(1): mozamis

Flubbernugget

(4): sheepsaysmeep, Sergtacos, Not_Mafia, Internecine

BuJaber

(1): Hopkirk

Hopkirk

(1): Katyusha

Not_Mafia

(1): humaneatingmonkey

Not Voting

(2): Schism, BuJaber

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-01-19 12:49:59)

Mod Notes

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[BuJaber]

Sorry, thought the implication was clear. I don't think his summary was accurate, so yes.

It was no need to apologize. I wanted it spelled out for my own peace of mind.

Here's my situation:

1. I'm not so sure flubb is scum here. Which from my perspective and previously mentioned poe makes seph scum. I want to vote there, but feel like it might be too late.
2. we need schism and people other than you 4 to post.
3. HEM has become the most solid town read out of everyone.
4. Because of my thoughts on 315, and points 1 and 3 above, and now that you've confirmed that I did correctly if not completely grasp your conversation with Hop, I'm leaning scum for hop also.

[Katyusha]

What's giving you pause about scum!flub? You were pretty happy to hammer him just a while ago so...?

Plus it's never too late to vote for scum. If his preliminary thoughts change your mind then you can still move your vote.

I agree with everything else though at least - especially on point 2. I'm more than glad with putting a gag rule on myself since I think I already have twice as many posts as sheep at this rate and have done so in the past.

[Sephiroth]

I'm not scum tho, so how does that change your perspective?

[sheepsaysmeep]

he scumreads you

[sheepsaysmeep]

or poe i think he said

[Sephiroth]

Yes I'm asking him how his reads change with me as town.

[Sephiroth]

No offense but please let me have my own interactions with players, you don't need to translate =)

[Not_Mafia]

Yes I'm asking him how his reads change with me as town.

If you flip town then I'll townread you

[Sephiroth]

I was asking bujaber not you but I appreciate your honesty. I usually tr people when they flip toqwn also.

[sheepsaysmeep]

usually lol

[Sephiroth]

Top scum reads are hem, mozamis and bujaber. I think UCV could easily be scum this game based on meta but the other three are stronger reads.

Kat and n_m feel town. I think flubber is probably being mislynched and I'm fairly confident at least one scum is on that wagon. I also don't think Hop is scum, and I'm surprised kat is pushing the argument she is because it doesnt seem very convincing to me.

Who knows with Serg. Sheep is probably town but something pings me as off. No read on Inter or Schism yet.

Mozamis, can you tell me specifically why you townread these players when you made this post? Youre basically saying on page 7 that you refuse to vote these people today and I see zero justification to do so at that point in the game. So why were those players so strongly town so early?

Might post more later. I think theres a lot of bad reads going around so far.

[Sephiroth]

n_m, am I supposed to read the top as most scummy or bottom as most scummy?

[Katyusha]

Could you go into your HEM scumread?

[Sephiroth]

He's showed a willingness to prematurely lynch or solicit a claim several times. I don't view that as pro town behavior.

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think UCV could easily be scum this game based on meta

no way in hell

[Sephiroth]

You're entitled to your opinion.

[Katyusha]

It’s anti-town, but I don’t think it’s coming from an informed position.

Like with n_m, “L-1 and claim” is basically saying “this guy needs to die if he keeps this up” as I understood HEM. I think he was more trying to provoke me to get a read out of me when he was asking me about Bu’s intent.

Both are probably ultimately conducive to helping town win even if n_m or Flub are actually scum but I think it makes sense for town to feel so radically.

pedit: the only game I played with UCV we couldn’t post any words

[Katyusha]

*aren’t probably

[Sephiroth]

I don't see what about it indicates to you whether its from an informed or uninformed position. Kinda seems like you pulled that from thin air.

Soliciting a claim on D1 with no consensus to lynch is always scummy in my book.

[Not_Mafia]

n_m, am I supposed to read the top as most scummy or bottom as most scummy?

Bottom is scummiest

[Sephiroth]

thx bb

[Katyusha]

Scum are informed, town are not.

Both can do things that may be anti-town, but when there’s plausible town motive for something anti-town it’s important to put everything into perspective.

I think monkey’s calls for a quicklynch are null at worst.

[Sephiroth]

You seem to mysteriously think the popular wagons are the scummiest, despite me pretty much not having posted for like 7 pages. Thats p convenient.

[Sephiroth]

I think monkey’s calls for a quicklynch are null at worst.

Agree to disagree. No need to explain what informed and uninformed mean, I'm asking what about the post gave you a sense one way or another. Please answer that question and stop trying to explain basics to me.