this is gonna be mostly shoot from the hip
scumhunting in multiball is just as shit as ever
open queue needs more singleball games
anyway
Beefster
: The things he thinks are scummy are actually fairly consistent, and his reads reevaluation reads genuine. I powerlynched Beefster literally last multiball game, and either he's actively making an effort to not play exactly the same, or he's just not scum here. Constantly changing trajectory heavily implies town. Not_Mafia vote is actively pro-town.
GIF
: Generally difficult to read playstyle. It feels like he's put himself in a position that will let him pretty much lynch anyone. I'm not seeing much effort to sort people. Hawk vote was good but then he backed off of that.
@GIF:
Please explain exactly why you backed off Hawk. Do a towncase if you have to.
Hawk
: I feel like I expect more of this. Chainsaw defence of my slot feels like buddying up to me after JK9++, and going after RedFlavor when Red is absolutely playing differently from JK9++ is predatory. Then when I lurk off the face of the planet, he switches over to discrediting/fencesitting my slot (WTF?). A lot of his reads feel politically motivated.
Iconeum
: Jesus christ am I gonna have to do wagon analysis on this shit? Iconeum is so obviously newbie tryhard town it hurts. Literally my first game I tried to policy lynch the shit out of someone D1 for claiming scum and the town wagoned me. The rules quoting, the digging his heels in at "BUT BUT HE CLAIMED SCUM". It's like you guys completely forgot how to read newbies. Like MAYYYYYBE he's fire mafia (the one that N_M isn't), but the rules post quote really makes me think he just didn't get a scum PM.
Kop
:
117 feels fluffy. The "DID N_M CLAIM SCUM OR NOT" is just a really easy discussion to have to look busy. Seems LAMISTy.
Mumble
: Mostly NAI, but generally feels like a newbie who's genuinely incapable of reading other newbies. It's like...
Not_Mafia
: @my replacement: DO NOT LET HIM LIVE TO LYLO.
RedFlavor
: I straight up don't believe he's improved his scumgame THIS MUCH since Polygamist and JK9++. He's not obvtown in the newbie sense, he's obvtown in the sense that this game is straight up out of his league. I've seen no evidence that he's capable of actually casing people as scum, or going through nuanced reasoning.
Trust my meta guys, don't lynch Red.
Sesq
: She's defending herself trying to frame herself as town on singleball towntells. Doesn't work. Complaining about the gamestate reminds me of myself as scum. If she doesn't get into the game or show original content by the end of D2, you need to lynch here. Never getting shot.
That said, figure out if Sesq has ever played with RC before, because if she has, antagonising RC seems to have little scum motivation for someone who's clearly not a powerplayer.
skitter30
: I was waiting to give a read on her entrance because I was modding town-skitter. I know nothing of skitter's towngame, but I'm seeing almost exactly the same playstyle, the same genuineness in her reads, the same pushiness with a "hit you over the head with this case every post I make".
195 fucking REEKS multiball-town. Honestly likely to get NK'd anyway. Should post a full reads list at some point.
Sky_Paladin
: I don't like the Beefster vote. The "don't you know you're town?" thing is predatory as shit. I don't like the Not_Mafia vote when he spent an entire post talking about how concerned he was with me, and then admitting to not wanting to go head to head with me (I almost got him lynched last time he did so). It feels like he's jumping on the train of "WOW TD'S OPENING WAS WEIRD RIGHT" but isn't putting any ass behind it.
T&T
: I'm not gonna pretend I can read RC. Keychain feels pretty decently town though. Questioning people that she could've just started pushing instead. I guess she could still be multiball scum who's just actively scumhunting while RC pushes the scum agenda, but it doesn't really feel like there's an agenda here.
Okay ranking:
Town: {Iconeum, RedFlavor, skitter30}
Probtown: {Beefster, Mumble, T&T}
Nullscum: {Kop}
Probscum but depending on certain things (see my reads on them): {GIF, Sesq}
Probscum: {Sky_Paladin, Hawk}
Lynch anyway: {Not_Mafia}
If I were going to continue to play this game, I'd be voting Hawk.
TO MY REPLACEMENT:
PLEASE don't fall into the trap of going along with the shit Iconeum/RedFlavor wagons. They're newbtown. And be super wary of the Beefster/Mumble wagons; a lot of the things people think are scummy about them are not actually scumtells.
Outside of that, do whatever you want.