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[StefanB]

Why would you not comment?

Because I think it will help the game more if Fitz coments on that before me.
To make it clear I have read it, am thinking about it.

[Nero Cain]

that's fair. I agree.

[Not Known 15]

Sepiroth has been prodded.

[Sephiroth]

I don't want to flake but I'm also doubting I'll be able to give this game the attention it deserves =/

[StefanB]

Seph:
If the game is to much for you and you ask to be replaced, than we would not think bad of you.
You seemed to have Problems since at last day 5.
I don't want to make you feal that you should replaced out, but don't stress yourself. In the end is it only a game, there are many thinks which are more important.

[havingfitz]

Seph...I'd rather a replacement than the participation level you've been giving.

[havingfitz]

Because I think it will help the game more if Fitz coments on that before me.
To make it clear I have read it, am thinking about it.

I assume you mean on this?

About the Bu-Fitzconection I will not comment.

You want me to comment on what my thoughts towards Bujaber were? Was that opinion not clear?

[StefanB]

Fitz:
Look at 1195 repaired in 1199. Does that make more sense?

[StefanB]

My stand is I have my opinion about 1195, but I will not comment, because I think this is not helpful at the moment.
I am at the moment trying to no loose the game by looking at it as is to easy or overthinking it.

[havingfitz]

Chumba seems p null. Its WIOFMY NKA (so take with a large dose of salt) but Luca dies N1 after pushing him.

I know Chumba's alignment but can't answer for anything he said or did. I will say I thought he played a very town game (which he was). Don't know who else would have wanted Luca dead...could have been pr hunting as easily as eliminating an accuser.

Fitz opening seems a little

IIOA

y at times.

My replace in catch up post's are always the same. Basically giving my thoughts on various posts as I read through and then my opinion at the end. Passively supported by the aforementioned comments. So a little IIOA perhaps but there is usually opinion provided based on that IIOA.

He first gives Mulch alot of shit for targeting Bu. 953, 956, 969. I guess you could look at it as he just really didn't like Mulch (which is not hard to do btw) but you could also look at it as chainsaw defending his buddy.

I wasn't giving Mulch shit based on not liking him or not. I didn't think his claim fit with his actions. Which I lay out in a few of those posts. I was town reading BuJaber and suspected TGP/Mulch...so I wasn't going to believe Mulch's claim blindly when if didn't seem right imo.

And when the guilty hits he kinda stalls on the Bu wagon 1019, 1024, 1029. 1067 is kinda rolefishing.

1019 is trying to understand two claims from people I wasn't necessarily townreading that could be proving a tr was scum. 1024 and 1029 were not "stalling" anything...this was where I was beginning to consider BuJaber might actually be scum. And insinuating 1067 is "rolefishing" is pretty shitty considering I was asking Roy to confirm what iirc he had already claimed. Which is in no way any "kinda rolefishing."

So kinda has a clear link with dead scum.

So if by "kinda has a clear link" refers to me townreading BuJaber and not jumping to believe claims that indicted him then so be it. Was I the only person townreading BuJaber or do other people have "clear links" to him as well?

[Nero Cain]

Was I the only person townreading BuJaber or do other people have "clear links" to him as well?

idk. Why were you townreading Bu anyways?

[havingfitz]

His posts...at least to the point I did my catch up read town to me. Once I had him in my "I think he's town pile" I was more focused on sorting the people I suspected did think were likely to be town.

[Nero Cain]

can you kinda talk about what you liked from him?

[havingfitz]

I don't make town cases typically for my town reads unless something blatant is jumping out at me.

Most of my town reads come from a gut feel about their posts...or even just a few posts that might look like they are coming more from town than scum. I think BuJaber's ISO posts 8-14 or so were where I was getting my town vibes from. If was a first read through tr that was enough to keep him off my radar.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 4.3

Sephiroth(0)

StefanB(1) Christopher,

Christopher(3) StefanB, Lalendra, Mulch,

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Nero Cain(0)

Lalendra(0)

Mulch(0)

No Lynch(0)

Not Voting(4): Sephiroth, Nero Cain, havingfitz,

With 7 alive it is 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2018-03-03 02:33:00) or when a lynch is achieved

[Nero Cain]

Just to clarify, are we talking 8, 12 and 14 or his 8th throught 14th posts wich would be 59, 67, 78
104, 108, 111, 116, 120

[StefanB]

Christopher, Lal: If you are town, you are both struggeling. Can you two share some townread perhaps if scumreads or complete reads are too dificult?

[havingfitz]

Just to clarify

Most of my town reads come from a

gut feel

about their posts...or even just a few posts that might look like they are coming more from town than scum. I think BuJaber's ISO

posts 8-14 or so

were where I was getting my town vibes from.

[Mulch]

Bujaber post on prism were pretty good tbh

[Nero Cain]

im just asking you were you got those gut feelings b/c 8, 12 and 14 are trash and its kinda alarming you'd gut town read him based on those.

[Mulch]

Best entrance I've seen on MS, Prism. Thanks.

You're over simplifying the Roy issue though. The point isn't about the gambit. Obviously no scum has a reason for a secret gambit. The question here is the intention behind saying it's a secret gambit.
Is it he got caught as scum o he is making an excuse?
Did he get nervous as town so he explained but doesn't want to reveal his plan to scum?
Or is the statement itself a scum gambit to appear town?

Lalendra is scum, vote lalendra. Or it's prism.
Like as much as I like the thought process behind Prism's post I think it's reaching. Reading seph's posts gives me a townie vibe and I find it odd he'd pick seph over anyone else that's questionable.

But a question for you Prism, if you are heavily leaning town for Roy, what do you think of Leon sheeping him?

This was incredibly towny imo

[Nero Cain]

This was incredibly towny imo

3.BuJaber, Mafia Goon, lynched Day 3

I just can't...

[StefanB]

Just to clarify, are we talking 8, 12 and 14 or his 8th throught 14th posts wich would be 59, 67, 78
104, 108, 111, 116, 120

If I would have written it and not srewed up horrible, ISO Bujaber would have meaned his post 8th through 14th, the second alternative. It is as far as I know the logic reading.

Your discusion with Mulch: This is the problem with discusing the past. Certain Posts from scum look townish. We all know that Bu flipped scum, Mulch was part of the reason that he got lynched.

[havingfitz]

im just asking you were you got those gut feelings b/c 8, 12 and 14 are trash and its kinda alarming you'd gut town read him based on those.

One man's trash is another's gut town read.

Kind of like how I tr mozamis and others got it wrong.

[havingfitz]

Does anyone know if TGP was an alt?